End of season predictor...

[SoccerHQ]

If Saturday is the new benchmark, then can somebody give me a good reason why we cannot go to Old Trafford and get a good result? Its not just Liverpool going there and battering them, but the likes of Fulham getting a point, West Brom and Newcastle beating them too. They really are an upper mid-table side.

They'll probably recall Macheda on the morning of the game from the temple of doom and he'll smash in a 96th minute 40 yard volley winner.

We are condemned for eternal misery in Manchester I'm afraid.

[SoccerHQ]

If Saturday is the new benchmark, then can somebody give me a good reason why we cannot go to Old Trafford and get a good result? Its not just Liverpool going there and battering them, but the likes of Fulham getting a point, West Brom and Newcastle beating them too. They really are an upper mid-table side.

We are terrified of Manure, for no great reason. At Villa Park every time Rooney touched the ball our players visibly shrank away from him. They haven't got a very good team, apart from up front, but you know we'll bottle it. Strangely we never seem worried about Chelsea.

Aye it's certainly psychologically. How can it be that we annually give Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool all really good games and take points off them and yet crumble time and again to Man. United?

My other theory is them endlessly crossing the ball all the time under Moyes actually highlights a weakness in our game.

If you think back to the Villa Park game, all three of Hernandez goals came from crosses/high balls as did two of RVP's at Old Trafford. And Wellbeck scored from a cross at Villa Park.

[Irish villain]

Beat them away in 2009/10. It's a pity one of those draws at home under MON didn't result in some sort of a win.

[Toronto Villa]

Whenever I've been bothered to do one of these I end up with Villa winning the league. I just did it again and unfortunately we've run out of games and possible points. We did end up in 9th though.

[supertom]

Beat them away in 2009/10. It's a pity one of those draws at home under MON didn't result in some sort of a win.

That sad part about that game was that we'd taken 4 points off Utd by the time the League Cup Final rolled in. And given our horrendous record against them over the years, it was almost inevitable that we wouldn't be able to beat them twice in one season, let alone not lose to the bastards.

Anyway...I fancy us to get something against them at O.T this season. They're not great. There's no point in us being afraid of them. Lets go out and try to win. That was the worst part of the VP game. They were there for the taking but we didn't even try to win.

[cdbearsfan]

We did try to start with, we just gave up the second they scored.

[adrenachrome]

We did try to start with, we just gave up the second they scored.

Correct. We even had a few admittedly tame shots on goal in the early period of the game.

Vlaar wasn't playing, and it was fairly standard for our defence to become disorganized after a setback in his absence.

[SoccerHQ]

They ripped us apart on the left that day....Luna was going through a terrible run of form and Rafael and Valencia (who's having an awful season) had a field day down that side.

We do seem to struggle to contain their flair players a lot more than other sides when you think we comfortably marked Hazard out of the game at weekend and he's one of the most inform players in the league.

[berneboy]

Phew ...

13 Hull City 38 -9 40
14 West Brom 38 -13 39
15 Sunderland 38 -22 38
16 West Ham 38 -14 37
17 Aston Villa 38 -18 37
18 Fulham 38 -41 35
19 Norwich 38 -30 33
20 Cardiff 38 -36 31

[mr underhill]

you could well be right. Even two places higher and its Thank you and goodnight, Paul

[silhillvilla]

I think it could easily go to the last day and that is a concern as the others all have winnable games and we will most likely lose at spurs
Cardiff v Chelsea (title probably over Chelsea on beach)
Fulham v palace (palace safe on beach)
Norwich v arsenal (never trust arsenal for a result)
Sunderland v Swansea (swans safe on beach)
WBA v Stoke (Stoke safe on beach)

Very worried

[nigel]

I think it could easily go to the last day and that is a concern as the others all have winnable games and we will most likely lose at spurs
Cardiff v Chelsea (title probably over Chelsea on beach)
Fulham v palace (palace safe on beach)
Norwich v arsenal (never trust arsenal for a result)
Sunderland v Swansea (swans safe on beach)
WBA v Stoke (Stoke safe on beach)

Very worried

Sunderland will need 2 wins and a draw from 4 games
Cardiff 2 wins from 3
Fulham 2 wins from 3
Norwich 1 win and a draw from 3

That's without us picking up another point. It would be an incredible turn around.
I reckon we've 2 - 4 points in us. Swansea and Hull safe on the beach, as you put it.   

[Russ aka Big Nose]

I have us in 15th on 37 pts. Below us, in order, are Sunderland, West Brom, Norwich, Fulham and Cardiff.

[Billy Walker]

Spurs are the most "on the beach" club ever.   Man City might be on the beach too...we might even be on the beach come the last game.

[silhillvilla]

Problem is we can't score goals