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Re: The Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #1890 on: August 01, 2014, 08:06:53 PM »
I hope not, Jordan was dropped after doing well against sri lanka and the pressure to perform seems to have got to him.  I'd leave the team unchanged unless we're forced to replace Jimmy.  If we have to replace Jimmy it'll be a difficult decision who to go with, but they've at least given Woakes some time with the new ball, so I guess Woakes and Broad would open.

Not Jordan is quite ready for tests just yet and is probably more suited to ODIs at this point.  Saying that, it would be pretty harsh to drop him again.  Shane Warne said in commentary that he would look to bring Finn back in for the next test, but I guess that depends on how ready he is.  If Jimmy is out, then Onions is probably the closest thing we have in terms of being able to swing the ball, but again there are fitness doubts about him.     

Same squad has been announced so given that it contains 2 bowling options I can't see another bowler coming in. If we do lose Jimmy I expect to see Plunkett back , meaning the only selection question is between Jordan and Stokes. Personally I would give Jordan another chance,  in the first innings he looked like he was trying to find the perfect delivery and he lost his line.

If Jimmy is out I think Woakes will take the new ball with Broad, he hasn't got the wickets yet but at times he was unplayable and just didn't get the edges he deserved.

On reflection, I would too and would go with an unchanged side for the next test.  Jordan is bound to be fired up and wanting to do well. 

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #1891 on: August 01, 2014, 09:49:30 PM »
I think Plunkett will most likely come back in for Old Trafford, in place of Jordan.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #1892 on: August 04, 2014, 12:58:30 AM »
I think Plunkett will most likely come back in for Old Trafford, in place of Jordan.

Watching the Cricket Writers Show and the T20, that was certainly the opinion of most of the pundits. With Finn being called in to replaced Plunkett, I wonder if the change will still happen.  Paul Allott said that the pitch at Old Trafford was likely to have a bit of extra bounce and carry, so we could well see Finn back in the starting XI in place of Jordan.     

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #1893 on: August 04, 2014, 08:34:37 AM »
I think Plunkett will most likely come back in for Old Trafford, in place of Jordan.

Watching the Cricket Writers Show and the T20, that was certainly the opinion of most of the pundits. With Finn being called in to replaced Plunkett, I wonder if the change will still happen.  Paul Allott said that the pitch at Old Trafford was likely to have a bit of extra bounce and carry, so we could well see Finn back in the starting XI in place of Jordan.   
I hope Finn doesn't get back in the starting xi yet. I fear it may still be a bit to early for him.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #1894 on: August 04, 2014, 11:37:12 AM »
Dunno. As the fourth seamer in an attack which is firing and confident I reckon this is the perfect time for him to come back. If not now, when?

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #1895 on: August 05, 2014, 03:11:48 PM »
Sometimes it's hard to not hate the indian cricket board:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/28658463

So basically "we're not allowed to appeal the decision to not ban Jimmy so we're going to sulk to the man who can and make sure the whole world knows that we're sulking by making a press release about it".

With this kind of behaviour and the DRS stance I'd love the ICC to tell them to piss off until they stop acting like spoilt little kids.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #1896 on: August 05, 2014, 03:52:40 PM »
Sometimes it's hard to not hate the indian cricket board:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/28658463

So basically "we're not allowed to appeal the decision to not ban Jimmy so we're going to sulk to the man who can and make sure the whole world knows that we're sulking by making a press release about it".

With this kind of behaviour and the DRS stance I'd love the ICC to tell them to piss off until they stop acting like spoilt little kids.

I'd like to see that happen but think that given the power that the BCCI hold within the ICC it's highly unlikely to happen.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #1897 on: August 06, 2014, 04:56:58 PM »
Dunno. As the fourth seamer in an attack which is firing and confident I reckon this is the perfect time for him to come back. If not now, when?
I don't think he is in such good form that he warrants a comeback yet, he is averaging only slightly under 30 and his economy rate is roughly 4rpo. I'd like him to get his confidence sky high and get him really chomping at the bit for a recall.

As it turns out he hasn't been selected and Jordan has kept his place.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #1898 on: August 06, 2014, 06:35:12 PM »
Dunno. As the fourth seamer in an attack which is firing and confident I reckon this is the perfect time for him to come back. If not now, when?
I don't think he is in such good form that he warrants a comeback yet, he is averaging only slightly under 30 and his economy rate is roughly 4rpo. I'd like him to get his confidence sky high and get him really chomping at the bit for a recall.

As it turns out he hasn't been selected and Jordan has kept his place.

which is the correct decision.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #1899 on: August 06, 2014, 06:55:32 PM »
Hales made a century for England Lions today. Surely the argument against picking him for the 50 over side is now redundant?

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #1900 on: August 06, 2014, 08:30:03 PM »
Dunno. As the fourth seamer in an attack which is firing and confident I reckon this is the perfect time for him to come back. If not now, when?
I don't think he is in such good form that he warrants a comeback yet, he is averaging only slightly under 30 and his economy rate is roughly 4rpo. I'd like him to get his confidence sky high and get him really chomping at the bit for a recall.

As it turns out he hasn't been selected and Jordan has kept his place.

which is the correct decision.

Wouldn't have minded either decision, but an unchanged team makes sense. Jordan needs some wickets though, neither he nor Woakes got wickets last time but it was obvious who was in rhythm and bowling better.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #1901 on: August 06, 2014, 09:17:38 PM »
Dunno. As the fourth seamer in an attack which is firing and confident I reckon this is the perfect time for him to come back. If not now, when?
I don't think he is in such good form that he warrants a comeback yet, he is averaging only slightly under 30 and his economy rate is roughly 4rpo. I'd like him to get his confidence sky high and get him really chomping at the bit for a recall.

As it turns out he hasn't been selected and Jordan has kept his place.

which is the correct decision.

We'll see I guess.  Not sure I can see the logic in calling up someone who has recently suffered an awful crisis of confidence and then leaving them out. 
« Last Edit: August 06, 2014, 09:22:34 PM by tomd2103 »

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #1902 on: August 06, 2014, 09:20:26 PM »
Hales made a century for England Lions today. Surely the argument against picking him for the 50 over side is now redundant?

Would have him opening with Bell in the ODI side, though Vince and Roy must also be in with a shout.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #1903 on: August 07, 2014, 09:31:09 AM »
I think Plunkett will most likely come back in for Old Trafford, in place of Jordan.

Watching the Cricket Writers Show and the T20, that was certainly the opinion of most of the pundits. With Finn being called in to replaced Plunkett, I wonder if the change will still happen.  Paul Allott said that the pitch at Old Trafford was likely to have a bit of extra bounce and carry, so we could well see Finn back in the starting XI in place of Jordan.     

I enjoy watching that programme, especially when Vic Marks or Steve "Pedro" James* are on.

(* Pedro was the best player I ever played Cricket with AND the best player I ever played Rugby with)

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #1904 on: August 07, 2014, 10:38:39 AM »
Raining in Manchester - which is surprising - so the toss is delayed. The forecast for the next five days is pretty bad so I think a draw is on the cards.

Fecking Manchester sunshine.

 


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