The Cricket Thread 2014

[PaulWinch again]

There has to be a change now though, it can't continue that was a shambolic and embarrassing defeat in a game where we had every advantage possible.

[taylorsworkrate]

Are those clamouring for Jos Buttler aware he has said he isn't ready to make the step up to Test cricket yet?

The ECB obviously think he is ready, as he wouldn't have been called up as cover for the 1st test otherwise.

I'd rather try something that has a chance of working with Buttler, than carry on with something that is certain to fail with Prior.

[taylorsworkrate]

Right team for the next game for me should be something like -

Ali
Robson
Ballance
Bell(just about clings on)
Root
Morgan(Captain)
Buttler
Jordan
Plunkett
Broad(as I don't want to rush Finn back)
Anderson

Cook needs to get away and sort out his game in county cricket, if that means being loaned to a different county to get game time then so be it. Prior is sadly for him done as an international cricketer now, he was excellent but well over the hill. Stokes needs to go back to county cricket and sort his batting out, but he'll come back and will be an excellent player.

I'd swap Root and Bell in the order and I bring in Kerrigan or Woakes for Broad so he can get fit.

I don't think Kerrigan is ready yet, and I'm not sure Woakes is good enough as a seamer. If I were to replace Broad so he can get fit, it'd probably be someone like Overton for me.

I think Woakes would have been a decent bet on the first day's pitch here, but in flat conditions not so much.

[PaulWinch again]

Are those clamouring for Jos Buttler aware he has said he isn't ready to make the step up to Test cricket yet?

The ECB obviously think he is ready, as he wouldn't have been called up as cover for the 1st test otherwise.

I'd rather try something that has a chance of working with Buttler, than carry on with something that is certain to fail with Prior.

I'd also argue he's much better than Prior is now.

[Villan For Life]

If Broad needs surgery then I'd consider replacing him for the time being with Bresnan.

[paul_e]

Right team for the next game for me should be something like -

Ali
Robson
Ballance
Bell(just about clings on)
Root
Morgan(Captain)
Buttler
Jordan
Plunkett
Broad(as I don't want to rush Finn back)
Anderson

Cook needs to get away and sort out his game in county cricket, if that means being loaned to a different county to get game time then so be it. Prior is sadly for him done as an international cricketer now, he was excellent but well over the hill. Stokes needs to go back to county cricket and sort his batting out, but he'll come back and will be an excellent player.

I'd swap Root and Bell in the order and I bring in Kerrigan or Woakes for Broad so he can get fit.

I don't think Kerrigan is ready yet, and I'm not sure Woakes is good enough as a seamer. If I were to replace Broad so he can get fit, it'd probably be someone like Overton for me.

I think Woakes would have been a decent bet on the first day's pitch here, but in flat conditions not so much.

Woakes, Morgan, Kerrigan and Buttler all need to be the 'next off the rank' they've all been taken out of county games to be with England, you can't bypass them when you make changes.

I agree that Kerrigan might well not be ready but the key for a developing spinner is to get him in the middle bowling lots of overs. They either back him and give him game time and a decent chance (i.e. more than 8 overs) or you leave him with Lancs until next summer and then review things, pulling him out of games to carry drinks is wrong.

[taylorsworkrate]

What a load of bullshit from Cook. So Prior keeps his place as long as "he" decides he wants it?

[tomd2103]

Are those clamouring for Jos Buttler aware he has said he isn't ready to make the step up to Test cricket yet?

If he's deemed not ready, then a stop gap like Chris Read batting down the order may be an option. 

[Villan For Life]

What a load of bullshit from Cook. So Prior keeps his place as long as "he" decides he wants it?

Tired ramblings of a captain who will be relieved of his duties tomorrow.

[PGW]

The next test is at Aegeas bowl starting Sunday currently at Horsham you have a battle going on between Jordan & Woakes, this game only started today thereby finishing Thursday,
if either of this pair are selected what happens are they able to pull them out the match as i would assume they would prefer them to join up with the squad sooner rather than later.
    If i had a choice i would go for the Woakes option, if he had been playing in this England second innings i'm certain he would not have succumbed to those pull shots having greater control
when batting, the adventurous style of Jordan would have meant him going the same way of his compatriots.
It could be of course that Anderson may be suspended for up to 3 games from the result of his review tomorrow so there may be an enforced change there, if no suspension keep Anderson and
leave Broad out along with Stokes and has Plunkett done enough to keep his place, changing 3 would probably be too severe.
I'm not too sure what will happen to Cook but i assume he will keep his place, is there the opportunity to bring Michael Carberry in to play at his home ground, could the make up of the side be
something like:
1 Cook or Robson
2 Carberry
3 Ballance
4 Root
5 Bell
6 Ali
7 Prior or Buttler
8 Woakes
9 Jordan
10 Plunkett
11 Anderson or Broad
If its Broad he slips in at 9 an every Jordan goes down one with Plunkett at 11.
Captaincy well thats the million dollar one isn't it....Bell or Root personally for me Bell.

[paul_e]

Are those clamouring for Jos Buttler aware he has said he isn't ready to make the step up to Test cricket yet?

I am, and to an extent I think he's right, but Prior has to go now, neither his batting or his keeping are strong enough to keep his place. So then you look at do we want someone who's ready now but has a year or 2 to offer or do we go for a guy who's a bit raw but can give us 10years.  I pick the latter.

[Villan For Life]

I'd select Jordan ahead of Woakes every time. Jordan has the ability to make things happen, which is something that we sadly lack at the moment.

[taylorsworkrate]

Are those clamouring for Jos Buttler aware he has said he isn't ready to make the step up to Test cricket yet?

I am, and to an extent I think he's right, but Prior has to go now, neither his batting or his keeping are strong enough to keep his place. So then you look at do we want someone who's ready now but has a year or 2 to offer or do we go for a guy who's a bit raw but can give us 10years.  I pick the latter.

Yep, it's the way I see it aswell.

Buttler is the sort of cricketer we should be investing in.

[PaulWinch again]

Doesn't sound from Moores like Cook is going to go. It would be a stronger decision from Cook to quit than to stay on. Also all of the talk about 'iron will' and 'strength of character' is way off the mark. It's about performing to a high level and being tactically astute and we're a million miles off both.

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From Moores' comments, I think we will see Prior gone.