The Cricket Thread 2014

[OCD]

I have deliberately waited before i offered my views on this debacle as i wanted to give a constructive, well thought opinions, well i have now recovered and will put my views into print!

FOR FUCK'S SAKE THIS IS SIMPLY NOT FUCKIN GOOD ENOUGH YOU SPINELESS BUNCH OF TOSSERS, FOR FUCK'S SAKE DEFEAT TO FUCKIN NETHERLANDS NOT ONCE BUT FUCKIN TWICE.
IT'S A FUCKIN DISGRACE.
FIELDING - DISGRACEFUL, BOWLING - DISGRACEFUL, BATTING - ESPESCIALLY IN THIS GAME DISGRACEFUL!!!
TALK ABOUT A WINTER OF DISCONTENT!!!!

I regard this as very constructive and well thought through opinion

I wish he would stop sitting on the fence and tell us what he really thinks.

[Villan For Life]

Now Carberry has a pop:

Carberry Has His Say

[paul_e]

I'm pretty glad to see that, I want them questioning the decision to focus the blame on KP, the younger players in particular always had good things to say about him, it just seems that the more experienced players who weren't performing to standard had a problem with him and they've got their way and had him kicked out.

[PaulWinch again]

Yep it sounds exactly like that, which is pathetic and frankly we're still apalling.

[Villan For Life]

I've added a poll about the new coach.

[spangley1812]

The poll is very good but only 3 possibly 4 of the people have actually applied for the job

[Villan For Life]

The poll is very good but only 3 possibly 4 of the people have actually applied for the job

I know. I based it on the fact that Betfair are offering odds on all of them.

[PaulWinch again]

I agree with Allan Lamb, the ECB has a shed load of money and they should do their very best to get the best candidate available. If they have reservations, then offer a suitable monetary package to encourage them.

[spangley1812]

I agree with Allan Lamb, the ECB has a shed load of money and they should do their very best to get the best candidate available. If they have reservations, then offer a suitable monetary package to encourage them.

That isnt going to work though is it Paul as Kirsten can earn what the ECB will offer him for 2/3 months work in the IPL so why would he take the England job which is 12 months a year travelling all over the world

[PaulWinch again]

It doesn't have to be Kirsten though, there aren't that many coaches in the IPL. I'm sure the England coaching job is still a pretty high profile role and the ECB can afford to have a salary that is attractive.

[paul_e]

Who they choose doesn't matter al lthat much so long as the requirements they set are suitable.  If Giles, despite recent events, is the best candidate based on those then I'm ok with it.  If Giles gets the job because he's already involved and they like him then we're in the shit.

[spangley1812]

It doesn't have to be Kirsten though, there aren't that many coaches in the IPL. I'm sure the England coaching job is still a pretty high profile role and the ECB can afford to have a salary that is attractive.

Its very high profile but its more or less full time with a lot of travelling and all the money in the world does not appear to have enticed a lot of applicants as it looks like its between Gilo, Newell and Moores........

[Villan For Life]

It doesn't have to be Kirsten though, there aren't that many coaches in the IPL. I'm sure the England coaching job is still a pretty high profile role and the ECB can afford to have a salary that is attractive.

Its very high profile but its more or less full time with a lot of travelling and all the money in the world does not appear to have enticed a lot of applicants as it looks like its between Gilo, Newell and Moores........

That's worrying. Giles looks out of his depth, Newell is inexperienced at International level and Moores wasn't a popular coach last time around.

We need an innovator; someone who will encourage us to lead and not follow. Too many times we've been left behind whilst other teams pioneer new playing styles/tactics.

It's Kirsten for me or if he won't come Tom Moody.

[paul_e]

I don't think inexperience at international level should count against Newell, he's done very well with Notts which is all he can be judged on.  As I say, if they meet with him and his vision for what needs to be done is the best fit then I'm happy, I just don't want them to make the easy decision, like they did with KP, better the wrong decision for the right reasons.

[Villan For Life]

I don't think inexperience at international level should count against Newell, he's done very well with Notts which is all he can be judged on.  As I say, if they meet with him and his vision for what needs to be done is the best fit then I'm happy, I just don't want them to make the easy decision, like they did with KP, better the wrong decision for the right reasons.

I disagree, it should count against him. The England job is one of the biggest in world cricket and international experience is a must. I'd rather see Duncan Fletcher back before Newell.

Newell is a good, solid county coach who produces consistently good teams. For me, a lack of international experience as a player and a coach should rule him out.