The Cricket Thread 2014

[Dave Cooper please]

Great first over from Dernbach mind.

[PaulWinch again]

Jordan is having some day.

[taylorsworkrate]

Dernbach got incredibly lucky there

[Villan For Life]

Jordan is having some day.

He played the proverbial blinder.

[spangley1812]

Stokes out of T20 World Cup due to punching a locker...........mmm not learnt his lesson then

Woaksie called up.........His bowling may be useful on the slow, low wickets of Bangladesh 

[PaulWinch again]

I'm not sure how I feel about the Trotty interview on Sky, he is visibly still upset and I don't think it should have been done.

[eastie]

I'm not sure how I feel about the Trotty interview on Sky, he is visibly still upset and I don't think it should have been done.

Vaughan has written a great piece on this -trott was disrespectful to depressed people in his comments using words like I'm not a nutcase or crazy just out of form .

Vaughan is right - trott has done a runner and let down his teammates .

@MichaelVaughan: My thoughts on the Trott interview...http://t.co/qylTLAxI8s. With @TelegraphSport

[OzVilla]

If true then Vaughan is totally correct imo.  Trott has gone down immeasurably in my estimations.

So there was no mental illness, he was just feeling burnt out.  After coming off a 6 week break and after 3 days of Test Cricket in the most important Series we can play in. Fuck me, these sportsmen have no idea sometimes. 

Funny he became burnt out when he'd just had to face the hostility of Mitchell Johnson and had surrendered his wicket twice and the time when you needed the experienced players to make a stand.  No wonder Swann thought it acceptable to piss off mid tour, after all Trott had done it after 4 days.

Absolute validation of the decision to let Flower go as the culture clearly was piss poor if this was by any means acceptable. 

Worse still, it now appears that that massive gobshite Warner may have been right in his analysis after all.

How would you feel as a young player trying to score runs in the County Championship if Trott gets in ahead of you. Don't care if he scores thousands of runs, don't pick him again. 
 

[PaulWinch again]

I'm not convinced we can jump to the conclusion he bottled it and there wasn't more there. In the interview he was visibly emotional and his eyes were welling up, I don't think you react like that if you were burnt out a few months ago.

[paul_e]

I don't know what to think, part of me thinks the interview is an attempt to 'man it up' and make light of the problem, which would be a serious misjudgement.  I do think it was a lot more than just a bit burned out, he looked totally out of character in the summer as well.  Bad attempt to be macho for me.

[eastie]

I'm not convinced we can jump to the conclusion he bottled it and there wasn't more there. In the interview he was visibly emotional and his eyes were welling up, I don't think you react like that if you were burnt out a few months ago.

What do you make of vaughan's  article ?
He seems to be in little doubt and trott was foolish to use words like nutcase and crazy when denying he had been depressed.

[PaulWinch again]

Well Vaughan's article may be accurate, but to be fair Trott may not really know if he was depressed and if he's struggling to cope with facing that fact he may be using those words to distance himself fromwhat he's faced. Also just because Trott says he was burned out doesn't mean he's accurately understood what happened to him. The amount of emotion he showed in the interview suggests to me that it wasn't just 'burn out'.

[fredm]

The ones who the questions should be asked of are the ECB.  I think the whole planning of the back to back Ashes on top of all the other international matches finally got too much for him and he "bottled" (and I don't mean that in a vindictive way) it.  It's all very well these committee men sitting there in the posh seats counting the pennies and enjoying the perks, it is the players who have to go out there into the middle and face the music.  Don't forget, years ago they were on liners for weeks between series, and travelling around at a relatively sedate pace. Nowadays it is often on a plane for a few hours to the other side of the world, a bit of practice and into a test match. Very few warm up matches or practice matches between test matches nowadays. Then when that series has ended, including all the 50 overs/20-20's, it's on the plane again and off to somewhere else to go through the routine again. More hotels, more cricket. I think it all got too much for him - whether that is depression or not, I don't know.

[Chris Jameson]

I hope Trott isn't expecting to walk back into the England team.

[PaulWinch again]

I don't know what to think, part of me thinks the interview is an attempt to 'man it up' and make light of the problem, which would be a serious misjudgement.  I do think it was a lot more than just a bit burned out, he looked totally out of character in the summer as well.  Bad attempt to be macho for me.

That would be my reading and if you watch the interview he is on the verge of tears. There's more to this than just burn out and the use of inappropriate terms towards mental illness suggest very much trying to be macho. I think Vaughan may have misjudged this quite badly.