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Author Topic: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread  (Read 63615 times)

Offline olaftab

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Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #90 on: February 11, 2014, 09:59:18 PM »
Cone on mate. That's not a comfort to anybody, surely? West Ham are picking up points, when Fulham's new signings settle in they may improve and their result against Man United may be a shot in the arm. A few of the teams around us are starting to get results and we're not in any way looking convincing. I hope we'll be alright. We might just be. But it's a bleak outlook we're I'm looking from. Aston Villa should not be in this position in any season. But 4 in a row is taking the piss and if you keep pushing your luck, it will run out.
Can't  disagree with that.

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Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #91 on: February 11, 2014, 09:59:26 PM »
Edging closer to safety, point after miserable point isn't good enough for Aston Villa, we should aspire to more.

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Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #92 on: February 11, 2014, 09:59:26 PM »
Our fixtures through to end march are awful

We're gonna need to pick up some home points against Norwich and Stoke or I think we're gonna be in a spot of bother

Four points off the relegation zone now and in thirteenth

It's not really that much better than we were last season I imagine, at this stage?

4 points better off just fyi.

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Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #93 on: February 11, 2014, 09:59:40 PM »
For me the difference in Westward's performances are completely dependent on the movement around him.
2nd half he almost always had options and could switch the angle of attack, and not always with a 5 yard pass, there were some really good cross field balls to release Albrighton and Bacuna.
When Westward looks poor, we usually look poor, but I'm not convinced it's because he's hiding, more that he's the one left holding the baby when everyone else is hiding or playing statues.

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Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #94 on: February 11, 2014, 09:59:56 PM »
I can't help but feel that if the managers were swapped there would have been no doubt about the result. Just a hunch, but it looked to me like one of those games where their tactics were better than ours, our players were better than theirs, so the game ended equal.

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Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #95 on: February 11, 2014, 10:00:34 PM »
Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert: "I thought David Marshall pulled off two world-class saves in the second half - the one at the end and the one earlier to his left hand side.

"Second half, I thought we were excellent and on another night we would have come away as winners.

"If you pick up points away from home they'll take you a long way in this league, so I'm happy with a point."

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Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #96 on: February 11, 2014, 10:00:40 PM »
1 point from West Ham at home and Cardiff away is a terrible return.

And yet we're still 11th, 5 points clear of relegation, with only 12 to play.

Cone on mate. That's not a comfort to anybody, surely? West Ham are picking up points, when Fulham's new signings settle in they may improve and their result against Man United may be a shot in the arm. A few of the teams around us are starting to get results and we're not in any way looking convincing. I hope we'll be alright. We might just be. But it's a bleak outlook we're I'm looking from. Aston Villa should not be in this position in any season. But 4 in a row is taking the piss and if you keep pushing your luck, it will run out.

But the thing is, the teams around us aren't picking up points.  That's why we're still 11th.  West Ham are irrelevant now - they're above us.  The reality is, at least 7 of the 9 teams below us have got to either do better than they have so far this season or we've got to do worse than we have so far this season, which a lot of people would argue is impossible.

I'm not saying we're safe by any stretch but this rampant depression when we've picked up another point towards safety does no one any favours.

It's not so much rampant depression. It's that you come through games and you look at West Ham, Cardiff, Newcastle, Norwich and think well we should be getting at least 7 points there. Now in order to do that we need to win the next two games. Our performance against West Ham and our first half here are nowhere near acceptable. In the second half at least we appeared to realise we need to pass the ball, but how many times until Lambert actually learns that's the way for us to succeed?

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Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #97 on: February 11, 2014, 10:01:38 PM »
I can't help but feel that if the managers were swapped there would have been no doubt about the result. Just a hunch, but it looked to me like one of those games where their tactics were better than ours, our players were better than theirs, so the game ended equal.

Their tactics were to rely on us to miss numerous chances?

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Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #98 on: February 11, 2014, 10:01:53 PM »
The (sad) truth is, if we weren't so utterly pathetic at home, our away form would see us in the top 8. Easily.

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Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #99 on: February 11, 2014, 10:02:25 PM »
When we stumble across the line in thirteenth or fourteenth in May about two points clear of the five or six clubs bunched below us, we really need to take a good, long, honest look at ourselves and ask if this cycle of shite is acceptable for a club like ours.

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Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #100 on: February 11, 2014, 10:02:37 PM »
'And if you don't pick up points at home you are fucked'

Did he say that as well?

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Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #101 on: February 11, 2014, 10:02:50 PM »
It's not so much rampant depression. It's that you come through games and you look at West Ham, Cardiff, Newcastle, Norwich and think well we should be getting at least 7 points there. Now in order to do that we need to win the next two games. Our performance against West Ham and our first half here are nowhere near acceptable. In the second half at least we appeared to realise we need to pass the ball, but how many times until Lambert actually learns that's the way for us to succeed?

I don't think it's Lambert telling them to play crap, I just think the players aren't very good.  But we should have enough to stay up and then he needs to buy some decent players in the Summer.

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Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #102 on: February 11, 2014, 10:03:35 PM »
I can't help but feel that if the managers were swapped there would have been no doubt about the result. Just a hunch, but it looked to me like one of those games where their tactics were better than ours, our players were better than theirs, so the game ended equal.

Their tactics were to rely on us to miss numerous chances?

Oh no, their tactics were to control the midfield which they did first half, in spite of what we learned second half - that their players are rubbish.

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Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #103 on: February 11, 2014, 10:06:14 PM »
It's not so much rampant depression. It's that you come through games and you look at West Ham, Cardiff, Newcastle, Norwich and think well we should be getting at least 7 points there. Now in order to do that we need to win the next two games. Our performance against West Ham and our first half here are nowhere near acceptable. In the second half at least we appeared to realise we need to pass the ball, but how many times until Lambert actually learns that's the way for us to succeed?

I don't think it's Lambert telling them to play crap, I just think the players aren't very good.  But we should have enough to stay up and then he needs to buy some decent players in the Summer.

I agree we need some decent players, but I don't believe that the players we have can't learn to pass the ball short which they did in the second half.

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Re: Cardiff City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #104 on: February 11, 2014, 10:06:29 PM »
It's not so much rampant depression. It's that you come through games and you look at West Ham, Cardiff, Newcastle, Norwich and think well we should be getting at least 7 points there. Now in order to do that we need to win the next two games. Our performance against West Ham and our first half here are nowhere near acceptable. In the second half at least we appeared to realise we need to pass the ball, but how many times until Lambert actually learns that's the way for us to succeed?

I don't think it's Lambert telling them to play crap, I just think the players aren't very good.  But we should have enough to stay up and then he needs to buy some decent players in the Summer.

That's what I thought last year and look what he bought.

 


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