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Offline RussellC

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Arsenal
« Reply #13170 on: February 02, 2015, 10:53:04 AM »
I completely agree - if there was an Olympic medal for wanting Lambert to get the boot, i'd have broken the record. But anyone who replaces him has to get signed to a multi-year deal. Whether they choose to say goodbye at the end of the season or stay til the bitter end is not the point - nobody gets to sign a manager for five months just because we want it to happen.

There are feasible short-term options though. If we were to sack Lambert today I’m certain that there would be no shortage of people who would gladly take the job on a contract until the end of the season, with the view that the position would then be reviewed in the summer. Then we'd just need to be ruthless enough to take a longer term view in May.

Tim Sherwood, Gary McAllister, Brian Little, Prandelli, Glenn Hoddle, Gareth Southgate. There are loads of options who'd would be better than Lambert. We’re deep, deep in the shit, we don’t need to making an appointment for the next 5 years, we need to be bringing I someone to keep us in the Division in the next 3 months!  Something like Venables did for Bryan Robson at Boro years ago.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Arsenal
« Reply #13171 on: February 02, 2015, 10:57:26 AM »
At last total sense from someone.


Exclusive - Time coming for Lambert to call it quits at Aston Villa, says former star 15:00 CHE  Preview .Mark Bosnich believes the time is fast approaching for Paul Lambert to 'do the right thing' and call it quits at Aston Villa.

Bosnich insists Lambert must shoulder the responsibility for the woeful run of form, which has left the Midlands club sitting just three points above the relegation zone.

And he says the Scot must soon decide whether it is time to step aside and let someone else take charge.
Speaking on the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast, the ex-Villa goalkeeper said:

“It is coming to a head.

“I have said time and time again that nobody is too good to go down. They can only flirt with relegation so many times before they go down.  “I said at the start of the season that if you put Aston Villa’s starting eleven against Southampton’s starting eleven it would have been a toss-up [over which eleven is stronger] and maybe you would have just leaned towards Aston Villa. Ronald Koeman has shown exactly what can be done

"Whichever job you are in, there comes a time when you being there is not the right thing. You have got to do the right thing and actually turn round and say, ‘listen, maybe somebody can come in and do better’. I think it is approaching that moment for Paul.

“Ever since he was given a contract extension at the beginning of the season it has gone from bad to worse. He has got to change his footballing philosophy completely.

“He has got to change. If he fails to adapt or change, somebody is going to pull the trigger for him.  If they keep going like they are going, they will go down.”

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Arsenal
« Reply #13172 on: February 02, 2015, 10:59:33 AM »
I respect the decision of the people who still want him but can there really be a compelling argument to do so? And to me, better the devil you know isn't one of them.

I don't think it's a case of 'better the devil you know' for some, it's more like who is out there? Anyone but Lambert is not really a right answer either.
The answer to that question is not 'no-one'.

Don't get me wrong, I want him gone as much as you do. I'm just saying that as options go, there's not a lot about.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Arsenal
« Reply #13173 on: February 02, 2015, 11:06:36 AM »
Bozzie is right, but I don't get this 'lambert has to change' stuff.
People don't just change. He can't wake up tomorrow and think, I'm going to completely change who I am, what I stand for and how my teams will play football.
He is what he is.
And for me, that is someone who is in no way good enough for the job.
He has to go, no question.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Arsenal
« Reply #13174 on: February 02, 2015, 11:18:53 AM »
He is probably being diplomatic.  Or he wants to get his coaching badges sorted first.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Arsenal
« Reply #13175 on: February 02, 2015, 11:20:00 AM »
Groundhog Day.
No, it literally is .

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Arsenal
« Reply #13176 on: February 02, 2015, 11:30:01 AM »
At last total sense from someone.


Exclusive - Time coming for Lambert to call it quits at Aston Villa, says former star 15:00 CHE  Preview .Mark Bosnich believes the time is fast approaching for Paul Lambert to 'do the right thing' and call it quits at Aston Villa.

Bosnich insists Lambert must shoulder the responsibility for the woeful run of form, which has left the Midlands club sitting just three points above the relegation zone.

And he says the Scot must soon decide whether it is time to step aside and let someone else take charge.
Speaking on the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast, the ex-Villa goalkeeper said:

“It is coming to a head.

“I have said time and time again that nobody is too good to go down. They can only flirt with relegation so many times before they go down.  “I said at the start of the season that if you put Aston Villa’s starting eleven against Southampton’s starting eleven it would have been a toss-up [over which eleven is stronger] and maybe you would have just leaned towards Aston Villa. Ronald Koeman has shown exactly what can be done

"Whichever job you are in, there comes a time when you being there is not the right thing. You have got to do the right thing and actually turn round and say, ‘listen, maybe somebody can come in and do better’. I think it is approaching that moment for Paul.

“Ever since he was given a contract extension at the beginning of the season it has gone from bad to worse. He has got to change his footballing philosophy completely.

“He has got to change. If he fails to adapt or change, somebody is going to pull the trigger for him.  If they keep going like they are going, they will go down.”

But he has changed twice this season already, firstly lets keep the ball and pass it between ourselves in our half till it goes to Guzan for the "ave it moment" Then being not interested in wingers we sign two who can play the wings. He is clutching at straws and is a chancer so far out of his depth he is drowning. 

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Arsenal
« Reply #13177 on: February 02, 2015, 11:32:06 AM »
Something I've been thinking about last couple of days...

What if a replacement is already targeted but due to being at an existing club nothing can happen until the summer?  Hence the reason Lambert has not replaced any coaching staff therefore making himself "unsackable" until the end of the season as there is no in house replacement.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Arsenal
« Reply #13178 on: February 02, 2015, 11:36:03 AM »
At last total sense from someone.


Exclusive - Time coming for Lambert to call it quits at Aston Villa, says former star 15:00 CHE  Preview .Mark Bosnich believes the time is fast approaching for Paul Lambert to 'do the right thing' and call it quits at Aston Villa.

Bosnich insists Lambert must shoulder the responsibility for the woeful run of form, which has left the Midlands club sitting just three points above the relegation zone.

And he says the Scot must soon decide whether it is time to step aside and let someone else take charge.
Speaking on the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast, the ex-Villa goalkeeper said:

“It is coming to a head.

“I have said time and time again that nobody is too good to go down. They can only flirt with relegation so many times before they go down.  “I said at the start of the season that if you put Aston Villa’s starting eleven against Southampton’s starting eleven it would have been a toss-up [over which eleven is stronger] and maybe you would have just leaned towards Aston Villa. Ronald Koeman has shown exactly what can be done

"Whichever job you are in, there comes a time when you being there is not the right thing. You have got to do the right thing and actually turn round and say, ‘listen, maybe somebody can come in and do better’. I think it is approaching that moment for Paul.

“Ever since he was given a contract extension at the beginning of the season it has gone from bad to worse. He has got to change his footballing philosophy completely.

“He has got to change. If he fails to adapt or change, somebody is going to pull the trigger for him.  If they keep going like they are going, they will go down.”

But he has changed twice this season already, firstly lets keep the ball and pass it between ourselves in our half till it goes to Guzan for the "ave it moment" Then being not interested in wingers we sign two who can play the wings. He is clutching at straws and is a chancer so far out of his depth he is drowning. 
Agree to a degree, but good managers don't just change.
They evolve.
I thought Keown put it well last night when he explained how Arsenal have gradually changed from a possession team to what they are now.
But, that has taken time, AND, a quality manager who knows how to implement changes over time.

It seems our deluded one woke up one morning and thought it would be a good idea to stop hoofing and start passing sideways and backwards instead.
Mentalness!

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Arsenal
« Reply #13179 on: February 02, 2015, 11:36:52 AM »
Something I've been thinking about last couple of days...

What if a replacement is already targeted but due to being at an existing club nothing can happen until the summer?  Hence the reason Lambert has not replaced any coaching staff therefore making himself "unsackable" until the end of the season as there is no in house replacement.

Get on the phone to Office Angels and get a temp in. Short term contract, £10 p/h plus luncheon vouchers.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Arsenal
« Reply #13180 on: February 02, 2015, 11:43:56 AM »
At last total sense from someone.


Exclusive - Time coming for Lambert to call it quits at Aston Villa, says former star 15:00 CHE  Preview .Mark Bosnich believes the time is fast approaching for Paul Lambert to 'do the right thing' and call it quits at Aston Villa.

Bosnich insists Lambert must shoulder the responsibility for the woeful run of form, which has left the Midlands club sitting just three points above the relegation zone.

And he says the Scot must soon decide whether it is time to step aside and let someone else take charge.
Speaking on the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast, the ex-Villa goalkeeper said:

“It is coming to a head.

“I have said time and time again that nobody is too good to go down. They can only flirt with relegation so many times before they go down.  “I said at the start of the season that if you put Aston Villa’s starting eleven against Southampton’s starting eleven it would have been a toss-up [over which eleven is stronger] and maybe you would have just leaned towards Aston Villa. Ronald Koeman has shown exactly what can be done

"Whichever job you are in, there comes a time when you being there is not the right thing. You have got to do the right thing and actually turn round and say, ‘listen, maybe somebody can come in and do better’. I think it is approaching that moment for Paul.

“Ever since he was given a contract extension at the beginning of the season it has gone from bad to worse. He has got to change his footballing philosophy completely.

“He has got to change. If he fails to adapt or change, somebody is going to pull the trigger for him.  If they keep going like they are going, they will go down.”

But he has changed twice this season already, firstly lets keep the ball and pass it between ourselves in our half till it goes to Guzan for the "ave it moment" Then being not interested in wingers we sign two who can play the wings. He is clutching at straws and is a chancer so far out of his depth he is drowning. 
Agree to a degree, but good managers don't just change.
They evolve.
I thought Keown put it well last night when he explained how Arsenal have gradually changed from a possession team to what they are now.
But, that has taken time, AND, a quality manager who knows how to implement changes over time.

It seems our deluded one woke up one morning and thought it would be a good idea to stop hoofing and start passing sideways and backwards instead.
Mentalness!


Surely you do not just change ?

you mix it up, long and short keep the opposition guessing and play to your strengths ?

not suddenly announce you are a possession side now !!. 

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Arsenal
« Reply #13181 on: February 02, 2015, 11:46:21 AM »
This is a quote on the BBC web site - which manager are they talking about?

Actually, he is not a great coach, he's not a great tactician, he's not a great motivator and he struggles with big players who question his authority



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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Arsenal
« Reply #13182 on: February 02, 2015, 11:49:05 AM »
This is a quote on the BBC web site - which manager are they talking about?

Actually, he is not a great coach, he's not a great tactician, he's not a great motivator and he struggles with big players who question his authority




Mourinho?  He has done nothing

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Arsenal
« Reply #13183 on: February 02, 2015, 12:10:03 PM »
Or.. Any old clown could do better than this charlatan.
It's very easy to sympathise with that view though.  With no goals and no points from our last six matches, 7 goals and 12 points from our last 19 matches, and a string of unwanted records, it would be extremely difficult for someone to come in and do worse.

Which I totally agree with. We are already through the floor as far as this manager goes and we are in desperate situation.

Doesn't matter how many times the poll is reset, I will still vote to sack him. In fact he could win the next 5 matches on the bounce and I still want him gone. The man has no clue whatsoeverand the bile that he comes out with in the post match press conferences are mind boggling at times.

It's actually laughable that he is still in the job. I'm all for loyalty, but this really is a step too far. The players and squad are better than the current scenario without question. The constant media stance that he is working under a strict financial code is only partially true and should not be used to justify his current tenure.

Lambert out and sooner the better.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Arsenal
« Reply #13184 on: February 02, 2015, 12:10:07 PM »
At last total sense from someone.


Exclusive - Time coming for Lambert to call it quits at Aston Villa, says former star 15:00 CHE  Preview .Mark Bosnich believes the time is fast approaching for Paul Lambert to 'do the right thing' and call it quits at Aston Villa.

Bosnich insists Lambert must shoulder the responsibility for the woeful run of form, which has left the Midlands club sitting just three points above the relegation zone.

And he says the Scot must soon decide whether it is time to step aside and let someone else take charge.
Speaking on the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast, the ex-Villa goalkeeper said:

“It is coming to a head.

“I have said time and time again that nobody is too good to go down. They can only flirt with relegation so many times before they go down.  “I said at the start of the season that if you put Aston Villa’s starting eleven against Southampton’s starting eleven it would have been a toss-up [over which eleven is stronger] and maybe you would have just leaned towards Aston Villa. Ronald Koeman has shown exactly what can be done

"Whichever job you are in, there comes a time when you being there is not the right thing. You have got to do the right thing and actually turn round and say, ‘listen, maybe somebody can come in and do better’. I think it is approaching that moment for Paul.

“Ever since he was given a contract extension at the beginning of the season it has gone from bad to worse. He has got to change his footballing philosophy completely.

“He has got to change. If he fails to adapt or change, somebody is going to pull the trigger for him.  If they keep going like they are going, they will go down.”

Not sure that's accurate, he does keep changing, we still don't know what he actually believes in, he bends with the wind and still cant get anything right.

 


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