The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[LeeB]

The simple fact is he's clearly a yes man.

He's doing the bidding of the man that employs him. In every walk of life usually this is something to be admired, but from a supporters perspective it's about the last thing that you want.

Keep feeding us Jam tomorrow, whilst spending pretty much zip, keep us in the league (though he's gonna struggle this time) and don't moan about his lot.

You know how sometimes you wonder why certain managers  keep getting jobs, and others never get a look in? There's your answer. Even when he gets the boot from us, I guarantee he'll get more work because he's compliant, and won't give his bosses a hard time.

We need a SGT or Big Ron, or even JG, someone with a bit of pride and ego, that's going to push the board because they're not going to have their name on this shambles.

I don't hold much hope for it mind.

[Tom_Mc9?]

It's a shame it's come to this and there's really nothing more that needs saying than has already been said, but for the last two weeks I haven't been able to watch the games for the first time in some years and upon finding out the results there has been little surprise, shock or even anger. Apathy is taking over, the club is being driven to the ground and Lambert is one of the reasons, but Lerner is more culpable. It's a fucking shame.

[john e]

Realistically what decent manager would want to apply for the Villa job? they all want to bring in their own people and they all want to be able to sign decent players, i want Lambert out but i worry that we would get applications from chancers united.

Realistically there's always a massive queue for any job in football management

Every manager thinks he's the best the one that's going to turn it round,
Depending on the circumstances they might not be of top quality, but certainly for Villa there would be no shortage of applicants,
Don't forget football management is the best paid job for success or failure, if Lambert goes in the next few weeks he walks away with an estimated 2 million quid, for breaking all those records, what's not to like

[mike]

It's a shame it's come to this and there's really nothing more that needs saying than has already been said, but for the last two weeks I haven't been able to watch the games for the first time in some years and upon finding out the results there has been little surprise, shock or even anger. Apathy is taking over, the club is being driven to the ground and Lambert is one of the reasons, but Lerner is more culpable. It's a fucking shame.

How can you say such a thing after an 'excellent' performance like yesterday's?

[Meanwood Villa]

It's a shame it's come to this and there's really nothing more that needs saying than has already been said, but for the last two weeks I haven't been able to watch the games for the first time in some years and upon finding out the results there has been little surprise, shock or even anger. Apathy is taking over, the club is being driven to the ground and Lambert is one of the reasons, but Lerner is more culpable. It's a fucking shame.

How can you say such a thing after an 'excellent' performance like yesterday's?

So unhelpful as well. Hang your head in shame Tom_Mc9

[Tom_Mc9?]

I'm sure they were excellent, just not at the actual football thing. My guess is they huffed and puffed a lot and didn't resemble a football team.

[Meanwood Villa]

There was a brief spell when it looked like we might score and was quite exciting. Then they scored again and that was that.

[Villa in Denmark]

Anyone hear 5 live. Host and Danny mills both agreed that Lambert was a good manager!

 I heard that. Talking utter utter shite.

I heard a bit of Danny Kelly's show on TalkShite, and all his token thick pundit Danny Higginbotham could offer was some guff about "when I was at Stoke we knew if we could keep it tight then the Villa fans would soon start getting restless. Every opposition manager knows that".  So there you go everyone, stop griping about Lambert's tactics and his record, it's actually all our fault. Imagine how silly I feel.  (Kelly also thinks Agbonlahor is "good".  Funny, it's almost as if they haven't actually seen us play recently.)

That's the O'Leary factor still lingering.

Definitely.  I'm amazed that that stupid, baseless remark continues to have repercussions after all this time, but it clearly does. If only certain pundits were as happy to scrutinise our recent record as they are to build a lazy opinion round a nine year-old dubious quote.

It isn't just us, though.

I noticed during the Pardew reign, Newcastle fans got very similar treatment. "They hate him because he's a cockney, they'll only accept a Geordie manager" all that shit. I don't really care one way or another for Newcastle, but that must have been annoying as fuck.

Basically, in this country, if you don't support a club either amongst the usual CL place contenders, or a London club, you're effectively a piece of shit who deserves everything you get.

Sorry for dragging this a bit off topic, but isn't that true for just about everything in the UK as a whole.

Infrastructure investment, funding for culture etc.

The question is is the media agenda that enables this simplistic view point and it's consequences or the the pattern of investment and it's de facto inference of a national agenda that allows the media to adopt the simplistic viewpoint.

Either way it's shit.

[PaulWinch again]

Still hasn't been sacked then? ridiculous.

[Phil from the upper holte]

It's a shame it's come to this and there's really nothing more that needs saying than has already been said, but for the last two weeks I haven't been able to watch the games for the first time in some years and upon finding out the results there has been little surprise, shock or even anger. Apathy is taking over, the club is being driven to the ground and Lambert is one of the reasons, but Lerner is more culpable. It's a fucking shame.

I said this earlier in the match thread, I'm just falling out of love with it, I just can't watch it. Its terrible

[brian green]

Spot on VID. I will return to the topic shortly but to support your proposition that the whole management and funding of the UK and the justification of that bias pouring money and power into the south east being promoted without demur by the media, I wrote a very strong letter of complaint to the BBC last week. I was, and still am outraged at the constant pandering to the middle class privileged residents of the Home Counties.  In any phone in programme it is an extreme rarity to ever hear a regional accent that is not included for ridicule value.
Back to the topic. Yesterday I was struck by two extremes. How crushed and dispirited Cleverley was and by contrast how fresh and invigorated Gil was.  I have come to suspect that not only do the players not like Lambert, they are scared of him. Too many of the players are so scared of making mistakes they never take a risk and that is why our football is so turgid and lack lustre. I have also come to believe that the (alleged) bullying culture started with him and his formation of the bomb squad was his punishment method. Lambert cannot get the best out of a squad which is easily good enough for mid table because his players hate him or fear him or both, in my opinion.

[olaftab]

I don't think there is anything more to be said on this  or any other thread about our current plight. We are all at the point of giving up and that will permeate through to the team, if not already, and we will be relegated.  I go to match now expecting the worst and surprise surprise end up getting just that however I still sit there for 90+xx minutes hoping and wishing because that is all I have as I can not rely on man in charge and the players. I really don't know why I turn up at every home match now... I honestly don't......

[Ads]

The bomb squad was Lerner's idea. Lambert has more or less said as much, while Hutton alluded to it too in an interview last season.

I am not blaming Lambert for Cleverley so far as to criticise him for brining him here. But as far as his talent goes , or more accurately lack thereof, that's not down to fear. If you can look ordinary at best in a title winning Yanited side, then you're not going to look any better in a lower mid table outfit.

[dicedlam]

I wonder if on any of his trans-atlantic calls to Lerner, he has offered, or even contemplated giving his resignation?

 

[hilts_coolerking]

I wonder if on any of his trans-atlantic calls to Lerner, he has offered, or even contemplated giving his resignation?

 

I genuinely wonder whether they have any calls.  What is there to talk about?  Nothing ever changes