The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

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He similarly hasn't been able to move people on at a profit.

[SoccerHQ]

Didn't Stoke spend less than us and generally have since Mark Hughes has been there.

Arnautovic, Diouf and Bojan cost about 5 quid between them.

As much as I don't want to say it, being realistic Stoke are what we we really should be. Solid, top 10 more often than not and opposition teams really don't like playing.

We've got the defensive side sorted....but at the expense of any attacking threat whatsoever.

[john e]

The Financial Constraints argument is just bollocks.

Succintly put and absolutely correct

Your on drugs the pair of you, don't deny it you are and you know you are
just stop it Now

We spent 7 million quid in the last window ffs

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Stoke finished 9th.

[brian green]

The financial constraints are an entirely separate issue.   If you could strip out all of his failings in the job except financial ones he is neither particularly good or bad.   It is when you add in all the other stuff he has done and continues to do which have absolutely nothing to do with the money he has had to spend on transfers and wages that the true magnitude of his incompetence and stubborn stupidity is revealed.

[PeterWithesShin]

Didn't Stoke spend less than us and generally have since Mark Hughes has been there.

Arnautovic, Diouf and Bojan cost about 5 quid between them.

As much as I don't want to say it, being realistic Stoke are what we we really should be. Solid, top 10 more often than not and opposition teams really don't like playing.

We've got the defensive side sorted....but at the expense of any attacking threat whatsoever.

They didn't spend much the last couple of years but the few years before that they were spending a fair bit. 

[john e]

Totally agree.   The financial constraints argument is a Lambert apologists' fantasy.

Who could have had less finance and more sturm und drang ownership issues than Small Heath? and look at the difference a competent manager has made to them.  If we go on playing the way we are playing and they go on playing the way they are playing there is a very real chance of the doomsday scenario of them coming up as we go down.

And they'll probably get new owners and investment before we do.

I've Just got back in from the misses dragging me around a garden centre and read this

I think I've stepped into the twilight zone now

We're gone swap places with the bluenoses now, I've truly heard it all

I'm going upstairs to flush my head down the toilet and and then bang it against the wall to see if I'm just dreaming this shit

[richard moore]

The Financial Constraints argument is just bollocks.

Succintly put and absolutely correct

Your on drugs the pair of you, don't deny it you are and you know you are
just stop it Now

We spent 7 million quid in the last window ffs

Just ibuprofen John for a bit of a bad back, frustrating as it stopped me running at all over Christmas. Hope you are well and healthy!

[Malandro]

Brian, I'm very impressed you can write so eloquently on this thread with such reasonable, logical explanations for ditching Lambert.

I'm at a stage where I just don't know what else there is to say, other than perhaps a tourettes tirade. 

Keep it up!

[john e]

The Financial Constraints argument is just bollocks.

Succintly put and absolutely correct

Your on drugs the pair of you, don't deny it you are and you know you are
just stop it Now

We spent 7 million quid in the last window ffs

Just ibuprofen John for a bit of a bad back, frustrating as it stopped me running at all over Christmas. Hope you are well and healthy!

I am well thanks, but healthy.......probably not

Sorry to hear of your bad back is it a case of to much bed not enough sleep ??.......matron

[London Villan]

A canny manager may have played the high earning players (as he has done this season with Bent, CNZ and Hutton) to put them in the shop window in order to move them on and use the wages or actually use the talent in the squad.

More crazy management.

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I don't see how the transfer/wages budget can be extrapolated as a separate issue from our performance. If Lambert had been given the opportunity to spend on players as much as he was on just four in Benteke, Okore, Kozak and Sanchez, then the quality of the squad would be significantly greater than it is. Whatever Lambert's failings, if he had better players, we would be doing better.

[richard moore]

Just sat on a chair in a pub down in Wiltshire talking to friends John and when I got up, I had a really sore hip which seemed to just get worse. It didn't help that I chose to run both of the next two days before stopping for a week. Glad to hear you are ok despite the best efforts of the Villa to make us all ill!

[walsall villain]

I don't see how the transfer/wages budget can be extrapolated as a separate issue from our performance. If Lambert had been given the opportunity to spend on players as much as he was on just four in Benteke, Okore, Kozak and Sanchez, then the quality of the squad would be significantly greater than it is. Whatever Lambert's failings, if he had better players, we would be doing better.

The new managers at Palace and Stoke will see a couple of matches then decide on who to bring in before the deadline this month, then watch them go. Our man took two years to decide we need a "Merson" type number 10 and couldn't get one in the two windows since. After this amount of time excuses seem irrelevant.
I don't consider Joe Cole a realistic answer to our problems by the way.

[john e]

I don't see how the transfer/wages budget can be extrapolated as a separate issue from our performance. If Lambert had been given the opportunity to spend on players as much as he was on just four in Benteke, Okore, Kozak and Sanchez, then the quality of the squad would be significantly greater than it is. Whatever Lambert's failings, if he had better players, we would be doing better.

The new managers at Palace and Stoke will see a couple of matches then decide on who to bring in before the deadline this month, then watch them go. Our man took two years to decide we need a "Merson" type number 10 and couldn't get one in the two windows since. After this amount of time excuses seem irrelevant.
I don't consider Joe Cole a realistic answer to our problems by the way.

I would quite like a new manager at Villa to lift the spirits,
However I would not swap for either of those two numpties