The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[JUAN PABLO]

I was gutted after the 8 0 Chelsea . I didn't want him sacked but I did after the sheff utd game .

[brian green]

Very true Toronto but an administration career can often be burnished by taking on a problem job because the performance buck stops with the manager.  An illustration would be my eldest daughter who is a very highly qualified town planner  and was offered two jobs at the same time.   One with a leafy Garden City, one with an Inner London Borough.   She took the latter because it would be a bigger challenge.   Perhaps Tom Fox came for the challenge.   Would Martinez or Moyes come to us for that reason?   Not  so sure.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Toronto your posts are usually right on target but the big deterrent to any manager, good bad or indifferent coming to us is the uncertainty which surrounds the club.   All the other things you describe are big positives but without a known owner in place it is like Curiousorange said on another thread in a perfect little aphorism "we have a future without a time frame".   Wish I had said that.

You will Brian, you will.




Just joking mate...somebody famous said that didn't they? Oscar Wilde...or about Oscar Wilde?

[Legion]

“I wish I’d said that,” said Oscar Wilde once, admiring a witticism of James McNeill Whistler’s, and Whistler replied: “You will, Oscar, you will!”

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Nice one Leeg.
Cheers mate.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Listening to 5Live on the wireless.
Two things:
1. just to confirm - Alan Green's a twat.

2. Don't jump down my throat here - Pulis talking a massive amount of sense about management/coaching...said he liked watching sides who looked like they knew what they were doing (ie: coached)...my thoughts immediately went to us, who never seem to have any shape, plan or idea. He was referring to Eddie Howe and how much time he spends coaching his teams and players and you can always see that they have a strong idea of what are trying to achieve as a team.


Pulis?
Howe?

Just a thought. Or two?

Come on Worcester City!!!

[brian green]

When Damon was a boy he used to love to come to the dogs with me.   The word witticism reminded me of it.   Being the incredibly bright fellow he is he would always back dogs which had their names spelled incorrectly. Wittizm and John's Dilemna and Thisone Cantloose won him loadsamoney.   Happy days.

[Toronto Villa]

Very true Toronto but an administration career can often be burnished by taking on a problem job because the performance buck stops with the manager.  An illustration would be my eldest daughter who is a very highly qualified town planner  and was offered two jobs at the same time.   One with a leafy Garden City, one with an Inner London Borough.   She took the latter because it would be a bigger challenge.   Perhaps Tom Fox came for the challenge.   Would Martinez or Moyes come to us for that reason?   Not  so sure.

Oh I think they would. It's not like either of them walked into perfect situations in their current roles. Martinez came into a healthier situation at a club that for a number of years prior was financially teetering on the edge, and would Moyes have chosen Real Sociedad if the Villa job had been offered to him? I don't think he would. Not saying Martinez would leave now as he is in a good spot, but I think there are managers in England and abroad that would see Villa as a step up. For example just domestically, would Koeman look at Villa as a bigger job than Southampton or Hughes at Stoke? I think they would. Even up and coming or even some established managers in France or Spain would look at chance to manage a big PL club as step up. I don't think you can look at it as a fan. They look at it like any of us would look at a job opportunity at a bigger company with more money. I think as fans we are so close to the action that we cannot by nature have a impartial or rational perspective on things at our club.

[brian green]

Point taken T.   I just want somebody with a laugh and a smile and a big personality to put some of the fun back into going to Villa Park.   He can be just as bad as McLeish and Lambert for all I care  just so long as he is not so bloody boring and po faced and does not produce boring po faced football.

[silhillvilla]

I just want somebody with a laugh and a smile and a big personality to put some of the fun back into going to Villa Park.   

Biggins ?

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Holloway?




*ducks...runs...changes identity...leaves the country*

[Damo70]

I just want somebody with a laugh and a smile and a big personality to put some of the fun back into going to Villa Park.   

Biggins ?

"Laugh me a laugh...." Cannon and Ball could be our Clough and Taylor.

[QBVILLA]

As m,uch as i want hime gone i do worry that we are in a position where no-one decent would dare take us on.

That's a fair point.  What decent manager would take on the Villa job knowing we have a chairman who really couldn't care less about the club?  Sadly I think we're stuck with the pair of muppets till Lerner finds a buyer.

yes because there would be no decent manager that would want to run a massive football club, capable of attracting 35-40k gates with any hint of success, in arguably the most high profile, cash rich league in the world.

I agree. I think the Villa job is a no lose for any prospective manager. Pundits, or 'the inner circle' of football still defend Lambert's record at Villa Park citing the owner's apparent lack of interest and believe he's doing the best possible job under the circumstances. the Villa job is like a free pass. Finish mid table and you've done a fantastic job, get relegated and it's not your fault. Every manager wants to manage in the Premier League, Aston Villa will always be a big job.

[Dave]

I seem to remember that Alex McLeish was the 20th highest paid football manager in the world when he was with us.

That's the sort of thing that could make a manager interested in taking on a job.

[Comrade Blitz]

Hearing Lambert speak to the press always reminds me of the escape from the Lingerie Dept on "A Christmassy Ted":

Father Ted: Who's got the most boring voice?
Father Billy: What?
Father Ted: Of the lot of us, who's got the most boring voice?
Father Fitzgerald: (extremely dull voice) That'd be me, Ted...
Father Ted: Right, now, listen to me--
Father Fitzgerald: I have an awful dreary monotonous voice, God help me...