The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[N'ZMAV]

Why are you pleased, Westy?

[Dave]

Why are you pleased, Westy?

Because he likes Lambert and feels that he is doing a good job.

[Tom_Mc9?]

@greggevans40: Thanks for the interaction #avfc fans this morning. You lot are a happy, positive-thinking bunch. Links from manager's press con later. xxxx

Good tone for the local Villa journalist to have.

[Ads]

He's probably been given a load of abuse for having a different opinion. Westy's first posts were met with much the same "troll, Nose" etc.

[Ads]

the most turgid excuse for football and the most undefinable gameplan in the league.

Irrelevant in the scheme of things.

It won't be irrelevant if it leads to relegation.

The point being made is that the poor football has us 12th, so its not going to lead to relegation at all, which as far as Lerner is concerned is job done.

[Rigadon]

If 'being realistic' amounts to being remotely happy with the shit football we watch every week, then call me surreal. 

Im realistic enough to see the symptoms are inherent for Lambert as well as his own making, but he has consistently underachieved for all but a month or so during his time at villa.  At no other club on the league would he still be there let alone be sitting on a 4 year contract.  So we're enetitle to moan without fear of being called out as somehow unrealistic (or indeed fickle).

[not3bad]

the most turgid excuse for football and the most undefinable gameplan in the league.

Irrelevant in the scheme of things.

It won't be irrelevant if it leads to relegation. Another season, minus Vlaar, Delph and Benteke, and it probably will do. At some point we need to try and score more goals, and we need to dominate teams that aren't as good as us as opposed to playing every side the same regardless (defending for 70-80 minutes).

Those are if statements, and are again irrelevant. What matters is that now we're in a relatively comfortable position so we can moan about eye bleeding football and lack of cohesive plans all we want - Lambert's going nowhere.  As Westley correctly surmises, though not everyone will feel the same as him about this prospect.

[silhillvilla]

Arsenal, net spend £46m
Aston Villa, net spend £6m
Burnley, net spend £8m
Chelsea, net spend £10m
Crystal Palace, net spent £11m
Everton, net spend £33m
Hull City, net spend £25m
Leicester City, net spend £10m
Liverpool, net spend £36m
Manchester City, net spend £32m
Manchester United, net spend £122m
Newcastle United, net spend £25m
Queens Park Rangers, net spend £21m
Southampton, profit £31m
Stoke City, net spend £0.5m
Sunderland, net spend £10m
Swansea City, net spend £1.5m
Tottenham Hotspur, profit £6m
West Bromwich Albion, net spend £13m
West Ham United, net spend £31m

[supertom]

the most turgid excuse for football and the most undefinable gameplan in the league.

Irrelevant in the scheme of things.

It won't be irrelevant if it leads to relegation.

The point being made is that the poor football has us 12th, so its not going to lead to relegation at all, which as far as Lerner is concerned is job done.

I'm not going to pay too much attention to our position. This time last year we could see the warning signs but were reasonably comfortable looking in 10-11th place. Of course by the end it was a case of scraping over the line and hoping Norwich and Fulham stayed dreadful, which they duly did.

But I wouldn't fancy a season minus Benteke and Delph under Lambert. Not playing how we have for a season and a half.

[supertom]

the most turgid excuse for football and the most undefinable gameplan in the league.

Irrelevant in the scheme of things.

It won't be irrelevant if it leads to relegation. Another season, minus Vlaar, Delph and Benteke, and it probably will do. At some point we need to try and score more goals, and we need to dominate teams that aren't as good as us as opposed to playing every side the same regardless (defending for 70-80 minutes).

Those are if statements, and are again irrelevant. What matters is that now we're in a relatively comfortable position so we can moan about eye bleeding football and lack of cohesive plans all we want - Lambert's going nowhere.  As Westley correctly surmises, though not everyone will feel the same as him about this prospect.

Well on Lambert going nowhere I agree unfortunately. He will remain even if he takes us down I imagine.

[Ads]

the most turgid excuse for football and the most undefinable gameplan in the league.

Irrelevant in the scheme of things.

It won't be irrelevant if it leads to relegation.

The point being made is that the poor football has us 12th, so its not going to lead to relegation at all, which as far as Lerner is concerned is job done.

I'm not going to pay too much attention to our position.

Perhpas you should.

We have won one in 10, scored only 8 goals, yet we find ourselves in 12th and more than likely to be above Everton by six o'clock on Sunday.

The league is poor and there are far poorer sides than us, so we're not going to get relegated. I won't get worried about next season yet, there are far too many variables. Although I would say that if Benteke goes, then he isn't going cheap. Vlaar and Delph are very much replaceable.

[Drummond]

We've gone on an unbeaten run without Vlaar and Delph. They are definitely replaceable.

[aj2k77]

We've gone on an unbeaten run without Vlaar and Delph. They are definitely replaceable.

My opinion as well. Delph for me doesn't score enough, doesn't create and his tackling is still terrible. I like his drive but there are many players abroad I think we could get in the £4-5m range who can do the job.

Vlaar, his injuries are stacking up and we don't look more solid with him in the side, he's definitely not a natural leader for me. I'd be cashing him in in January should a decent offer come in.

Benteke on the other hand is the real deal. We've got to get £20m+ when he goes and he can't be replaced by a speculative punt. Without him in the side we are utter shit.

[Ads]

If Benteke is sold, then you'd think quite a bit of his fee would be spent on a repalcement and given that hsi wages, Bent's wages, Vlaars and Delphs, arguably our four top earners, would be off the books, then there would be quite a bit of scope for good players.

[Dr Butler]

Arsenal, net spend £46m
Aston Villa, net spend £6m
Burnley, net spend £8m
Chelsea, net spend £10m
Crystal Palace, net spent £11m
Everton, net spend £33m
Hull City, net spend £25m
Leicester City, net spend £10m
Liverpool, net spend £36m
Manchester City, net spend £32m
Manchester United, net spend £122m
Newcastle United, net spend £25m
Queens Park Rangers, net spend £21m
Southampton, profit £31m
Stoke City, net spend £0.5m
Sunderland, net spend £10m
Swansea City, net spend £1.5m
Tottenham Hotspur, profit £6m
West Bromwich Albion, net spend £13m
West Ham United, net spend £31m

oh great, another table where we are third from bottom    look how far we have fallen etc etc etc

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