The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[PaulWinch again]

Yes well Lambert really is building up a list of disasterous stats. It's remarkable that he's still in the job.

[ez]

I always thought that in years to come i would look back on villa and remember the McLeish season as the darkest of times. A time from which the only way was recovery. But no, Lambert is taking us even further into the abyss. I wouldn't have thought it possible but he's doing it.

[exiled on the wirral!]

Yes well Lambert really is building up a list of disasterous stats. It's remarkable that he's still in the job.

Two years on and i still haven't got over to losing to Bradford..over 2 legs!!

[Walmley_Villa]

Statistics mean nothing to Mr Lambert remember....

[claret and blue blood]

What gets me about Lambert is his inability to draw games , we win the odd game and lose the rest, some of those defeats turned into draws would make a massive difference, but no we lose and we lose again.
The catalogue of home defeats is the killer, walking away from the ground match after match with zero points and the away fans having a ball is now the norm.   

[Richard E]

I am personally right on the brink of taking a Villa holiday until Lambert goes.   A very big part of my reason for carrying on with the torture is because I get to spend time with my sons and my grandsons.   That has to be set against the reality that we are all so down and unable enjoy being in each other's company.

I must admit Brian I drove home on Sunday night thinking seriously that this might be my last Season Ticket. Going to Villa Park has become a chore in recent seasons. There was just something about that game that felt like a watershed. We played OK, Spurs were poor and we still lost.

[Legion]

That is how I felt all last season. A chore. I was only going down every game to sell H&V for Dave. Now I pick and choose matches to suit myself and Freddy.

[PeterWithesShin]

I still enjoy going to games, i'd enjoy it more if we were winning more, but i'm looking forward to Leicester, Sunderland and Burnley as my budget allowed me to get tickets to them.

[curlytailavfc]

Im a season ticket holder been going the villa for 52 years but last Sunday I couldn't be arsed to get ready and go the game.

[Rigadon]

I still enjoy going to games, i'd enjoy it more if we were winning more, but i'm looking forward to Leicester, Sunderland and Burnley as my budget allowed me to get tickets to them.

It's always good to go to experience the game live, especially as I don't have a season ticket (a small sense of novelty despite having been going with varying regularity since a kid in the 80's).

When my lad is old enough to go I think that might enhance the 'experience' a bit for me, a handing over of the birth right kind of thing...  The actual game is supposed to be entertaining too though and that has been thin on the ground over the past few years!  So, poignant to read some of the older guys on here post about attending with their family being tainted by the misery of it all presently.

[andyh]

From a member of our FB Page:

STILL A Fan of Lambert ? WAKE UP to the FACTS : 1. Biggest defeat in premiership history (8-0 chelsea)

2. Worst start to a season since we've been in the premiership (his first season)

3. First manager since we've been in the premiership to have two seasons or more and hasn't achieved a top ten finish

4. Most home defeats in a single season ever

5. Most defeats over a season in our premiership history (20 last season)

6. Most goals let in over a season since we've been in the premiership (over 60 last season)

7. Five defeats in a row without scoring for the first time in our entire history

8. Six defeats in a row for the first time since we've been in the premiership and also beyond (47 years)

9. First manager to lose to a fourth tier side over two legs in a cup semi-final

10. First time we've gone out of cup competitions three years on the spin to lower league opposition?

11. 23 defeats in 36 games the worst run any manager has ever had at this club?

When it's laid bare like this, how can club possibly think he's the right man for the job?

[silhillvilla]

Im a season ticket holder been going the villa for 52 years but last Sunday I couldn't be arsed to get ready and go the game.

You've hit the wall and it's becoming more common. I know quite a few villa fans who have given up after the last 4 years of nonsense.

[Richard E]

Im a season ticket holder been going the villa for 52 years but last Sunday I couldn't be arsed to get ready and go the game.

You've hit the wall and it's becoming more common. I know quite a few villa fans who have given up after the last 4 years of nonsense.

Same here. I'm the last man standing out of 4 I used to go/meet up with and I can think of 3 others from our wider circle who have also thrown in the towel.

[Villa in Denmark]

The Lambert/Villa stats do not lie, they are a horror story, the majority of fans have been loyal and supportive to Paul for a long time but we simply cannot go on much longer like this, we need a new managerial face in that dressing room and on the training ground and quick, I am convinced Pulis or Moyes would make us better organised and get way more out of that squad, they cannot be worse, we are becoming a laughing stock and that should not be happening to our club.

I think in amongst all of the appalling stats it's that bit that speaks the loudest for change.

Yes he's worked with a comparatively limited budget, but is that squad man for man worse than QPR, Sunderland or the bitters?
Was it worse than the awful Fulham team we gifted 6 points to last year, where he was out thought by Rene Muelensteen for fucks sake.

If we keep him the only negative record that I'm convinced he'll avoid is Derby's fewest points (or is it Sunderland, memory is shot and can't be bothered looking it up.)

He's already more than half way to equaling the 11 on the trot, and the stats for the last 19 games suggest a record negative goal difference is not beyond him.

The one single reason to keep him would be if you thought he could turn it around. Unfortunately all evidence points towards it getting worse not better.

I was going to say that he's a one trick pony who's in way over his head, but we saw a glimmer of what might have been at the end of his first season.
I can only think that when he took stock at the end of that season, he shit himself when he looked at some of the defensive performances leading to the sub McLeish last 15 months.  Now I think he's a rabbit trapped in the headlights, but too proud ir stubborn to admit that he's stuffed up.

For all our sakes, his included he needs to go now, certainly no later than immediately after the Southampton game, so a new man gets a bit of time to get his feet under the table, before the next game.

[john e]

I still enjoy going to games, i'd enjoy it more if we were winning more, but i'm looking forward to Leicester, Sunderland and Burnley as my budget allowed me to get tickets to them.

It's always good to go to experience the game live, especially as I don't have a season ticket (a small sense of novelty despite having been going with varying regularity since a kid in the 80's).

When my lad is old enough to go I think that might enhance the 'experience' a bit for me, a handing over of the birth right kind of thing...  The actual game is supposed to be entertaining too though and that has been thin on the ground over the past few years!  So, poignant to read some of the older guys on here post about attending with their family being tainted by the misery of it all presently.

Ive managed to wangle a couple of tickets in the family stand for the West Ham game, I'm taking my lad who 6, it's his first away game
To be honest the match is just the excuse for getting out for the day and having trip out

I've already told him we will almost certainly lose, because the secret to happiness is low expectations,  but we will still make it a great day together

I reckon a lot of people go to games now because of habit and meeting up with mates having a laugh and a drink etc, it's a lot better if we are playing well of course,
 but it's not just the football that goes into a match day experience, it's a good job or we would be struggling to get a handful through the turnstiles if it was