The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[ozzjim]

Of course it is. It is Spurs! There seems to be a hierarchy to get decisions, and midlands sides are at the bottom. Top 4, London, then everyone else in that order. At Old Trafford it would have probably finish 10-9 to us in players on the pitch as Vertonghen and Mason would have gone along with Benteke. Had it now, Shitbrick would be in the Conference north for a few weeks. It was as dodgy a performance as you will likely see, and as ever, another reason to loathe the state of the game. The red card waving, Soldardo pushing etc, all punishable, but not as easy to deal with as sending off the best Villa player to give Spurs the best chance of a result.

[Tom_Mc9?]

Sam, I didn't think the officials were dodgy so much as intolerably inept. Even the linesman in the first half couldn't keep up with play and missed two clear offsides that could have resulted in Spurs goals.

[brian green]

Without labouring the point I find it impossible to believe that the Spurs pre match dossier on our players would not have next to Benteke's name "biggest attacking threat, low boiling point, get in his face, could cop a card" or words to that effect. When he moves on and we have to play against him I would expect us to have the same modus operandi.

[ozzjim]

Sam, I didn't think the officials were dodgy so much as intolerably inept. Even the linesman in the first half couldn't keep up with play and missed two clear offsides that could have resulted in Spurs goals.

It was awful. It is also an incident where I reckon video technology could have been used to show that Mason was the initial aggressor and should have walked too.

[paulcomben]

Stuart McCall has resigned as Motherwell manager after five successive Premiership defeats. Having exceeded all expectations by finishing runners-up last season, 'Well have won only two of their 12 Premiership matches this season and are second bottom of the table.

Much better than Lambert, who should be ashamed of himself that he has no honour nor pride, like McCall.

[supertom]

Without labouring the point I find it impossible to believe that the Spurs pre match dossier on our players would not have next to Benteke's name "biggest attacking threat, low boiling point, get in his face, could cop a card" or words to that effect. When he moves on and we have to play against him I would expect us to have the same modus operandi.

If Spurs didn't do it, I'd fully expect subsequent opposition to be targeting him with two red cards (and probably a few yellows) under his belt now. John Terry will be rubbing his hands with glee when we next play Chelsea. To be honest there've been times where I thought Benteke was fortunate to avoid a carding when his frustration looked like boiling over in games.
Yesterday was harsh but it's part of the modern game, you cannot raise your hands like that. I don't like cheating but it's now part and parcel of the game and becoming a genuine tactic. When Mason put his head on Benteke, the big man should have clutched his face and dropped to the ground.

[Richard E]

Stuart McCall has resigned as Motherwell manager after five successive Premiership defeats. Having exceeded all expectations by finishing runners-up last season, 'Well have won only two of their 12 Premiership matches this season and are second bottom of the table.

Much better than Lambert, who should be ashamed of himself that he has no honour nor pride, like McCall.

Quite. Its not as if Lambert can fall back on saying he has worked under more difficult restraints than the manager of Motherwell, is it?

[pbavfckuwait]

The last 6 games and the theory that who we were playing it is acceptable to expect defeat highlights the way we have had our expectations not managed, but kicked the fuck out off.

With that in mind, this is how we as Villa supporters must accept the upcoming games.

West Ham are in the top 6, so we've lost that one, Southampton are second so here's the 3 points for that one, Burnley send us the points now, we will make Randy happy by not having to incur the travelling costs.Oh hold it!!!! QPR were bottom when we played them ! what happened there then, Stoke beat Man City, so did West Ham, the Foxes beat Man United, they were in the Champions league last year, so they must be unbeatable.

This is why Lambert must go, because you get the feeling this is his way of thinking, but he misses out the ones where in his realm we have fucked up against plenty of the so called minnows and I am only mentioning league games, lest not open up our cup record under the tosser.
Lambert for the love of god, GO.

[brian green]

Again you are on target Kuwait.
This last four years under McLeish and Lambert is like the drip, drip, drip of a Chinese water torture.
Just when you think the fans may be woken from their torpid apathy by a disgraceful display like QPR, along comes the sixth consecutive defeat but it comes gift wrapped for Lambert with a piece monumental player stupidity, a set of weak officials and London celebrity players committing heinous fouls without proper punishment.
It is manna from heaven for the manager and effectively guarantees security in the job until the next calamity, after which some spurious justification for him remaining in the job will be spun up from somewhere.

[aj2k77]

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Someone should make a copy of the Newcastle banner, not a Welsh village, Villas last 36 games under Lambore.

8 wins
5 draws
23 defeats

[JUAN PABLO]

I do think that, of the six (six!) consecutive defeats, only the QPR match was a really unforgivably poor performance. We might have been poor against, say, Everton, but they can be really good when they want to and better teams than us will be as bad as that, while against Arsenal and City we looked pretty good before their billions of quality really suckered us. Yesterday was a real smack in the cojones - we really were unlucky. Only the performance against QPR really struck me as without any justification, a completely pathetic capitulation to a very, very poor side.

I don't want Lambert, I should make that clear, but if, in future years, people look at the six-in-a-row, five without scoring, they will look at the fixture list and think 'well, that explains it'.

I'm sorry but scoring 1 goal in six games regardless of who the opposition are is unacceptable. West Ham beat Man Citeh, Hull drew with Arsenal, QPR pushed Chelsea. We produce barely anything in nearly all our games and it's pathetic.

Agree with Paul. We have no fight

[Chico Hamilton III]

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Someone should make a copy of the Newcastle banner, not a Welsh village, Villas last 36 games under Lambore.

8 wins
5 draws
23 defeats

But we were "unlucky" for most of those defeats. Can't blame the manager.

I'd prefer it if everyone took a large "Z" sign each to West Ham on Saturday

[andyh]

Its incredible to think that Lambert will have gone into work today, not with a feeling of dread of facing his boss, but knowing that he is on 6 feet of concrete and totally un-fucking-touchable!! 

[Tom_Mc9?]

I think the key word is momentum, rather than luck.

[aj2k77]

The last 6 games and the theory that who we were playing it is acceptable to expect defeat highlights the way we have had our expectations not managed, but kicked the fuck out off.

With that in mind, this is how we as Villa supporters must accept the upcoming games.

West Ham are in the top 6, so we've lost that one, Southampton are second so here's the 3 points for that one, Burnley send us the points now, we will make Randy happy by not having to incur the travelling costs.Oh hold it!!!! QPR were bottom when we played them ! what happened there then, Stoke beat Man City, so did West Ham, the Foxes beat Man United, they were in the Champions league last year, so they must be unbeatable.

This is why Lambert must go, because you get the feeling this is his way of thinking, but he misses out the ones where in his realm we have fucked up against plenty of the so called minnows and I am only mentioning league games, lest not open up our cup record under the tosser.
Lambert for the love of god, GO.

This is it. There's always an excuse for every defeat. The team were poisoned, ref was bent, Benteke isn't fit yet, players are too young, the opposition are on a good run, the opposition beat a decent team 3 weeks ago and are confident.

It's all shite though and we are starting to sound like small time baggies fans, tooth picking the smallest positive out of every defeat like we strung 5 passes together at one point during the game.

Lambert needs to go, it's been obviously above him for nearly 2 years and hopefully Lerner will follow him out the door not long after. They are the boardroom equivalent of Baker and Clark.