The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[edgysatsuma89]

Atleast we would be half decent at throw-ins under Pulis. Silver linings and all that.

Also, as supertom put, he would walk anyway. Give him the contract, keeps us up, realises that he actually has fuck all to spend, bye bye. Keeps us up and we haven't got him long term. Winner winner chicken fucking dinner.

It's easy this chairman lark. *puts on slippers and tokes on a pipe*

[silhillvilla]

I'm beginning to wish we'd got Koeman in the summer when he was available . I know it's early days for him but he appears to be a very good manager.

[brian green]

Pulis could never be a long term prospect but what he could do short term is make us less of a bad joke pushover and ultimately make the club less unattractive to a new buyer and a more talented manager.

[silhillvilla]

I couldn't take Pullis in his silly cap jogging down the touch line on the full time whistle high fiving the lower Trinity Daily Mail readers after grinding out a 0-0 draw vs Swansea or similar.

[peter w]

I would take Tony Pulis, did a great job at Stoke and he transformed Palace last season.

I mentioned pulis at the end of the season. However, the revelations of him pulling loan players from Peterborough because they sacked Alex's son, just to stay on the right side of Siralex made me feel queasy. He's no more than the playground definition of a weasel. Not for me.

[Percy McCarthy]

Been swayed by many viewpoints on this thread. The one thing I'm absolutely convinced of is the sheer madness of extending his contract to that extent. I'm sure he would have been grateful for another year on his contract, or a twelve-month roller. Surely that would have taken care of the stability aspect?

Doesn't Lerner believe in options? Isn't there anyone who has his ear who can explain the concept of a worst-case scenario? Because that's what we've got now, and a load of herberts on the internet saw it coming.

[rob_bridge]

Been swayed by many viewpoints on this thread. The one thing I'm absolutely convinced of is the sheer madness of extending his contract to that extent. I'm sure he would have been grateful for another year on his contract, or a twelve-month roller. Surely that would have taken care of the stability aspect?

Doesn't Lerner believe in options? Isn't there anyone who has his ear who can explain the concept of a worst-case scenario? Because that's what we've got now, and a load of herberts on the internet saw it coming.

No Percy he doesn't seem to believe in options. That is why on the first two occasions of hiring replacement managers he limited the field to have Premiership Experience as a must. Based on that logic he ruled out a lot of potential.

And then his selections, of which I assume came from a short list of potential recommendations, transpired to be not all that inspiring. That is a deliberate understatement.

Many of us wanted Lambert 2.5 years ago as along with Martinez and ~Rogers the brand of football employed was attractive and he was part of the new generation of progressive coaches. Those of us who did have been proved wrong. He deserved no such extension as no-one else worthwhile is going to come head hunting.

I am going to whisper this but wasn't Eastie an advocate of Koeman last year?

[curiousorange]

What I really don't get is the logic of it. Did Lerner actually think that the club was in danger of losing its manager because we'd just beaten a Suarez-less Liverpool? It was a great result, but it's been shown that we won't be the only side to pick on them this season. How did it go from inviting him over for a 'chat' to giving him a ridiculous contract? I get the reciprocal loyalty angle, but did three wins in four during silly season justify a long-term deal? Bung him a new motor or a holiday to Tenerife, ffs.

[Percy McCarthy]

Been swayed by many viewpoints on this thread. The one thing I'm absolutely convinced of is the sheer madness of extending his contract to that extent. I'm sure he would have been grateful for another year on his contract, or a twelve-month roller. Surely that would have taken care of the stability aspect?

Doesn't Lerner believe in options? Isn't there anyone who has his ear who can explain the concept of a worst-case scenario? Because that's what we've got now, and a load of herberts on the internet saw it coming.

No Percy he doesn't seem to believe in options. That is why on the first two occasions of hiring replacement managers he limited the field to have Premiership Experience as a must. Based on that logic he ruled out a lot of potential.

And then his selections, of which I assume came from a short list of potential recommendations, transpired to be not all that inspiring. That is a deliberate understatement.

Many of us wanted Lambert 2.5 years ago as along with Martinez and ~Rogers the brand of football employed was attractive and he was part of the new generation of progressive coaches. Those of us who did have been proved wrong. He deserved no such extension as no-one else worthwhile is going to come head hunting.

I am going to whisper this but wasn't Eastie an advocate of Koeman last year?

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[peter w]

Been swayed by many viewpoints on this thread. The one thing I'm absolutely convinced of is the sheer madness of extending his contract to that extent. I'm sure he would have been grateful for another year on his contract, or a twelve-month roller. Surely that would have taken care of the stability aspect?

Doesn't Lerner believe in options? Isn't there anyone who has his ear who can explain the concept of a worst-case scenario? Because that's what we've got now, and a load of herberts on the internet saw it coming.

No Percy he doesn't seem to believe in options. That is why on the first two occasions of hiring replacement managers he limited the field to have Premiership Experience as a must. Based on that logic he ruled out a lot of potential.

And then his selections, of which I assume came from a short list of potential recommendations, transpired to be not all that inspiring. That is a deliberate understatement.

Many of us wanted Lambert 2.5 years ago as along with Martinez and ~Rogers the brand of football employed was attractive and he was part of the new generation of progressive coaches. Those of us who did have been proved wrong. He deserved no such extension as no-one else worthwhile is going to come head hunting.

I am going to whisper this but wasn't Eastie an advocate of Koeman last year?

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Or lucky...

[saunders_heroes]

The only reason for Lambert's new deal I can come up with is that Lerner gave it him to protect him when a new owner came in. A kind of thank you from Lerner to Lambert, so even if he was immediately sacked by the new owner his wallet would be a whole lot better off. Sadly no new owner has turned up yet.

[rob_bridge]

The only reason for Lambert's new deal I can come up with is that Lerner gave it him to protect him when a new owner came in. A kind of thank you from Lerner to Lambert, so even if he was immediately sacked by the new owner his wallet would be a whole lot better off. Sadly no new owner has turned up yet.

Well I'm hoping there is performance based targets, how about 13th and at least trying to win the FA Cup. I hope the compensation is limited in the event the buffoon actually gets us relegated.

[Clampy]

Been swayed by many viewpoints on this thread. The one thing I'm absolutely convinced of is the sheer madness of extending his contract to that extent. I'm sure he would have been grateful for another year on his contract, or a twelve-month roller. Surely that would have taken care of the stability aspect?

Doesn't Lerner believe in options? Isn't there anyone who has his ear who can explain the concept of a worst-case scenario? Because that's what we've got now, and a load of herberts on the internet saw it coming.

I am going to whisper this but wasn't Eastie an advocate of Koeman last year?

That's twice you've whispered it now. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

[ktvillan]

Lambert on SSN this evening:

"look at the match against Everton, we had so many attacking players on the pitch ... and we just let them go and express themselves . and try and score and we had loads of shooting practise, you saw yesterday (referring to open training session) .. the crossing and the finishing, goals raining in"

Honestly, he's fucking clueless. He just thinks "put attacking players on the pitch" = "score loads of goals". "goals raining in in training" = "goals going in in matches"

I am more and more convinced that this bloke is an absolute fucking chancer, he has no idea what he is doing.

I really think we are just going to get worse under him.

He's more akin to someone playing Championship manager. Starts with a team and in the lower league and a formation and it works, a bigger club comes in and off you go and the formation works again. You get the offer of a job at a prem Club and can't see how your formation can't go wrong. But it does. You try the off other formation but default to the one that has always been successful but can't fathom out why it just doesn't work.

It's called being promoted to your level of incompetence (i.e. beyond your capabilities) and it's a common phenomenon in all industries.  Lambert appears to have reached that level.

[Legion]

I think he's surpassed it.