The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[pbavfckuwait]

Agree on the point of a need to announce that there is going to be an announcement, with this Lambert has been in self preservation mode to ensure he has a next employer, or the cynic in me believes.

Culverhouse and Karsa  suspension, still not been made public, the result of the suspension, Lambert was involved with this in some way, or knew about it and did nothing, so Lerner has said to him play dumb between now and the end of the season, you will get a pay off and bye , bye, maybe not told at the time about a takeover when he agreed, so now getting his highly veiled digs in reference Lerner and the need for investment.

Oh by the way I know where the missing plane is as well.

[TonyD]

Despite feeling sorry for him, I think his leadership qualities are really weak.

Having a nervous wreck of a manager on the touchline will inevitably rub off onto the younger players and probably lose respect of the experienced ones

This is how I feel about Ed Milliband.

Very good!!!

[TonyD]

I think PL has been dealt quite a bad hand in terms of funds a available and the subsequent injuries.  That said some of basics are lacking in terms of passing and ball retention.  I am undecided as to if he is as bad as some make out.

[mr underhill]

thankfully for me, there is no such ambiguity. He is.

[eamonn]

My sympathy doesn't extend much to Lambert. He knew what he was getting into when he joined and has said as much many times. He spent half of last season snapping at questions about experienced players, "Look at how crap this club has done recently with experienced players", merrily went along with the young and hungry model as his managerial experience sat far more comfortably with that than the awkward prospect of managing senior, star players who have worked with big managers and been transferred for lots of money. He had little experience of that so no wonder he didn't care about it. It's only now, belatedly after 80 games of overseeing abject displays more often than not that he starts pleading for funds. He probably doubled his money coming here. He couldn't manage his two mates working alongside with him let alone a club like ours. The time for him to go is here regardless of changes above him.

[eamonn]

We still have the eighth highest wage bill in the league.
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I'm not arguing with you on this but how do you know this to be true?

Was in the Guardians football finances feature last week.

[rob_bridge]

We still have the eighth highest wage bill in the league.
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I'm not arguing with you on this but how do you know this to be true?

Was in the Guardians football finances feature last week.

Interesting and worrying in equal measure.

Have you got a link, Eamonn

[pauliewalnuts]

We still have the eighth highest wage bill in the league.
.

I'm not arguing with you on this but how do you know this to be true?

Was in the Guardians football finances feature last week.

It'll be influenced by the 'bomb squad' members still on the wage bill.

If ever there were an illustration of how abysmally this club is run, then it is that whole 'bomb squad' thing.

[sonyhill]

My sympathy doesn't extend much to Lambert. He knew what he was getting into when he joined and has said as much many times. He spent half of last season snapping at questions about experienced players, "Look at how crap this club has done recently with experienced players", merrily went along with the young and hungry model as his managerial experience sat far more comfortably with that than the awkward prospect of managing senior, star players who have worked with big managers and been transferred for lots of money. He had little experience of that so no wonder he didn't care about it. It's only now, belatedly after 80 games of overseeing abject displays more often than not that he starts pleading for funds. He probably doubled his money coming here. He couldn't manage his two mates working alongside with him let alone a club like ours. The time for him to go is here regardless of changes above him.

Couldn't agree more.  He's reached the end.  He knows it.

[Ads]

We still have the eighth highest wage bill in the league.
.

I'm not arguing with you on this but how do you know this to be true?

Was in the Guardians football finances feature last week.

It'll be influenced by the 'bomb squad' members still on the wage bill.

If ever there were an illustration of how abysmally this club is run, then it is that whole 'bomb squad' thing.

A failure in the contract negotiations at the start and a failure to utilise the assets while we have them to aid in offloading them.

We have been badly run from 2006 to the present.

[fbriai]

I suppose it could be worse. We could be QPR, who seem to have done something similar, only on a different order of magnitude.

[SamTheMouse]

We still have the eighth highest wage bill in the league.
.

I'm not arguing with you on this but how do you know this to be true?

Was in the Guardians football finances feature last week.

It'll be influenced by the 'bomb squad' members still on the wage bill.

If ever there were an illustration of how abysmally this club is run, then it is that whole 'bomb squad' thing.

A failure in the contract negotiations at the start and a failure to utilise the assets while we have them to aid in offloading them.

We have been badly run from 2006 to the present.

To be fair, I think if Lambert had tried to utilise Hutton, he'd have been hounded out of the club by irate fans. N'Zogbia seems to have had a long term injury, and when he was fit at the start, Lambert did play him. Ireland was a useless waster and was offloaded at the first available opportunity. Lambert did give him a chance, too. And Bent was never the same after his injury. Given was awarded a silly contract.

I'm not convinced the club could have done much different in respect of the bomb squad. Apart, obviously, from not signing them (with the exception of Bent, who actually proved vital) and paying them stupid wages to start with.

[JUAN PABLO]

Id like someone like Klinsman

you have your man  

[Jarpie]

We still have the eighth highest wage bill in the league.
.

I'm not arguing with you on this but how do you know this to be true?

Was in the Guardians football finances feature last week.

It'll be influenced by the 'bomb squad' members still on the wage bill.

If ever there were an illustration of how abysmally this club is run, then it is that whole 'bomb squad' thing.

A failure in the contract negotiations at the start and a failure to utilise the assets while we have them to aid in offloading them.

We have been badly run from 2006 to the present.

To be fair, I think if Lambert had tried to utilise Hutton, he'd have been hounded out of the club by irate fans. N'Zogbia seems to have had a long term injury, and when he was fit at the start, Lambert did play him. Ireland was a useless waster and was offloaded at the first available opportunity. Lambert did give him a chance, too. And Bent was never the same after his injury. Given was awarded a silly contract.

I'm not convinced the club could have done much different in respect of the bomb squad. Apart, obviously, from not signing them (with the exception of Bent, who actually proved vital) and paying them stupid wages to start with.

The problem with Ireland was imo that he seemed not to give a shit every two-three games, and when he did give, his performance wasn't worth of the salary we paid him.

[pauliewalnuts]

We still have the eighth highest wage bill in the league.
.

I'm not arguing with you on this but how do you know this to be true?

Was in the Guardians football finances feature last week.

It'll be influenced by the 'bomb squad' members still on the wage bill.

If ever there were an illustration of how abysmally this club is run, then it is that whole 'bomb squad' thing.

A failure in the contract negotiations at the start and a failure to utilise the assets while we have them to aid in offloading them.

We have been badly run from 2006 to the present.

I keep saying this, but the one thing we have consistently failed to do in that time is manage the squad.

The squad should be the club's main asset, the club should be largely based around improving it, or, in base terms, maintaining and improving it's value.

For some reason, we do not appear to have done this. We are, for example, great at selling really good players - Milner, Young, Downing, Barry, ones people actively want. What about the other ones, though, who aren't so high profile?

Why are Hutton, Bent, N'Zogbia (because he will be one of them, have no doubt), Given, why are these players seemingly impossible to sell? Are they on stupid money? If so, that's poor management. If not, then it's still poor management in failing to sell them.

How many players have we had sit out huge contracts, contribute fuck all, and walk away for nothing?

Cuellar? NRC? Luke Young? Heskey? Ireland?

Randy is a good man, and he has spent a lot of money on this club. He "got" the club in a way that many others have not and do not. He has run it awfully, though, and it doesn't take much of a glance at the way money was wasted to see that.

I just don't see how it is possible for it to have been anything other than a job badly done to have spent hundreds of millions of pounds to end up with a really poor squad which has spent four years arsing around at the bottom of the table.