The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[pauliewalnuts]

I've changed the poll.

[edgysatsuma89]

No doubt that the constraints will have limited him ...

... But give me an excuse for those corners? Just one reason why we for so long we clearly did a set piece which was complete shite. Why Guzan hoofed it all the time? If it's off his own back, you give him a bollocking, but it obviously was something he was told to do.

Nothing to do with investment. Nothing to do with quality of players (I wouldn't expect it in League 2 exactly). All to do with management. If he doesn't do much coaching, then as soon as you see it on the pitch you go to your coaches 'hey, what the fucks that all about?, change it, pronto.'

Lerner and Lambert out thank you please.

[Toronto Villa]

You have to think that any new owner might want their own man in charge. Especially if the incumbent hasn't exactly covered himself in glory. It's one thing taking over a top 4 side with a very good manager at the helm. It's quite another when the manager has two relegation battles on his resume.

Unless Randy shocks eveyone and says he's staying, I don't think Lambert will be here.I think he knows that and he's been professional about it. Whatever happens now, the Randy Lerner era can be looked back on as promise unfulfilled. Sports team ownership is a huge gamble, and he'll be disappointed too that his massive investment hasn't taken him to where he would have hoped we'd have got to.

[Stu]

Get rid of him or not, I'm pretty certain most of the problems we have at the club lie at a higher level than team management.

Randy tried to remain competitive with a team that cost about £40m to assemble. It isn't enough and it was a massive gamble to attempt it; it hasn't worked, the side is rubbish and it needs to be sorted out starting from full time next Saturday.

[brontebilly]

If I was Paul Lambert Id be looking to resign now or force the board to sack me now. Two heavy defeats in our last two games and the Leeds job will be out of his reach.

[silhillvilla]

I think he can walk away with his cv intact.
Slashed wage bill and kept club in the PL for 2 more years. Someone like Burnley or Leicester will employ him once they panic and sack their manager in Dec/Jan .

[mr underhill]

But he hasn't slashed the wage bill. It's still huge and if he goes the bomb squad are still there to be defused for some other poor sod.

[Toronto Villa]

Why resign and walk away from a contract? It's much more lucrative to be fired.

[Toronto Villa]

But he hasn't slashed the wage bill. It's still huge and if he goes the bomb squad are still there to be defused for some other poor sod.

He has helped reduce it considerably. The most revealing accounts will be next years filing, not this.

[brontebilly]

Why resign and walk away from a contract? It's much more lucrative to be fired.

With only 12 months left on his deal anyway, there wont be much in the difference really.

Sure if Lerner agreed to pay him out for 6 months of the 12 months remaining on his contract it would be win/win for them both.

Lambert gets to push the whole "my hands were tied at Villa and I couldnt go on" line with the media. A Leeds or Sheff Wed might buy that and give him a well paid role pretty quickly before another club rushes in to take him on

Lerner's pay off to him is only six months less salary than what needs to be done in a few weeks anyway.

Lerner could also threaten the embroil Lambert in the current shambles re what his coaching staff were up to. It could be argued with justification that as they were Lambert's staff he is ultimately responsible for whatever they were at.

We are seeing an end game here like what went on with Ellis and O'Leary in the summer of 2006. Best for all parties if it is sorted asap imo

[not3bad]

But he hasn't slashed the wage bill. It's still huge and if he goes the bomb squad are still there to be defused for some other poor sod.

He has helped reduce it considerably. The most revealing accounts will be next years filing, not this.

Didn't Paul Faulkner confirm that the wage bill had dropped to target level at a meeting with some of the supporters?

[ciggiesnbeer]

Put me in the "I dont know" camp. Honestly I am confused. The results have been terrible but punctuated with some fantastic signings and some smart tactics then terrible tactics, but...the results have been terrible.

Dont know. Can a grown up make the call for me?

[saunders_heroes]

Put me in the "I dont know" camp. Honestly I am confused. The results have been terrible but punctuated with some fantastic signings and some smart tactics then terrible tactics, but...the results have been terrible.

Dont know. Can a grown up make the call for me?

Fantastic signings?

[Toronto Villa]

But he hasn't slashed the wage bill. It's still huge and if he goes the bomb squad are still there to be defused for some other poor sod.

He has helped reduce it considerably. The most revealing accounts will be next years filing, not this.

Didn't Paul Faulkner confirm that the wage bill had dropped to target level at a meeting with some of the supporters?

I believe he did. And just looking things logically, we're down to the last of the burdensome contracts of the MON/Houllier/McLeish era. I hope that by the end of this summer, Bent, Given, Hutton at the very least will be gone.

[Stu]

Benteke was a good signing, as was Kozak even if he didn't appear to be what we needed. Okore is still essentially an unknown quantity. Westwood is average.

The rest have been crap, mostly.