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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #5280 on: April 30, 2014, 12:18:56 PM »
I would agree. Amazed Clark has not been sat in front of the back 4 as a holding mid

Absolutely 100% right.  I have suggested this about five times this season. That is Clark's correct position.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #5281 on: April 30, 2014, 01:02:08 PM »
I would agree. Amazed Clark has not been sat in front of the back 4 as a holding mid

Absolutely 100% right.  I have suggested this about five times this season. That is Clark's correct position.

Not so sure myself.  I remember him being employed in a midfield role under McLeish and all he did was play short passes backwards and sideways.  I agree it would be worth trying it, but you ideally want a sitting midfielder to have a wide range of passing. 

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #5282 on: April 30, 2014, 01:08:35 PM »
A lot of people moaned when Clark played Midfield before....

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #5283 on: April 30, 2014, 01:10:40 PM »
I would agree. Amazed Clark has not been sat in front of the back 4 as a holding mid

Absolutely 100% right.  I have suggested this about five times this season. That is Clark's correct position.

Not so sure myself.  I remember him being employed in a midfield role under McLeish and all he did was play short passes backwards and sideways.  I agree it would be worth trying it, but you ideally want a sitting midfielder to have a wide range of passing. 

My thoughts exactly Tom.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #5284 on: April 30, 2014, 02:01:37 PM »
Do you? Ideally yes but for us simply shielding the back 4 and tracking midfielders running beyond he would do fine.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #5285 on: April 30, 2014, 02:17:44 PM »
I've always thought that, if you're going to have an out-and-out sitting midfielder then he should be good at starting counter-attacks, like Barry or Petrov. Clark's fine on the ball, but this has never struck me as a particular strength of his.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #5286 on: April 30, 2014, 02:19:16 PM »
Clark always struck me as better in midfield than defence, but I am not sure that's saying much.

A week or so after Lambert got the job, he did a WM forum, at which he said to Paul "Call Me Franksy" Franks that Clark was "no midfielder" and laughed it off.

That may be the case, but it looks increasingly like he's no defender, either.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #5287 on: April 30, 2014, 02:21:17 PM »
I've always thought that, if you're going to have an out-and-out sitting midfielder then he should be good at starting counter-attacks, like Barry or Petrov. Clark's fine on the ball, but this has never struck me as a particular strength of his.

I agree, Monty, centre halves always seem to lack the mobility to play anywhere else.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #5288 on: April 30, 2014, 02:24:00 PM »
I disagree, I actually think he's much more of a defender than Baker. Baker does all the things which look like defending but aren't, like last ditch tackles and fouling, whereas Clark at his best is very good at being in the way. He's played very poorly at times this season, but honestly, Baker has a game-losing mistake in him every week.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #5289 on: April 30, 2014, 02:25:13 PM »
I've always thought that, if you're going to have an out-and-out sitting midfielder then he should be good at starting counter-attacks, like Barry or Petrov. Clark's fine on the ball, but this has never struck me as a particular strength of his.

I agree, Monty, centre halves always seem to lack the mobility to play anywhere else.

There are rare exceptions - I'd have Pique in our midfield every day of the week, for instance - but by and large I think you're right, that even the most elastic and dynamic centre-half tends to look clumsy and slow when pushed forward.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #5290 on: April 30, 2014, 02:32:12 PM »
Clark the is not built like a centre half though.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #5291 on: April 30, 2014, 02:39:40 PM »
That's what people said about Cannavaro though. Not that Clark will be as good, or anywhere near as good, or anywhere near that even, but he still has the reading of the game and the physical courage to succeed, I think.
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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #5292 on: April 30, 2014, 02:46:21 PM »
That's what people said about Cannavaro though. Not that Clark will be as good, or anywhere near as good, or anywhere near that even, but he still has the reading of the game and the physical courage to succeed, I think.

Closer to home, Gareth Southgate was hardly a brick shithouse either.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #5293 on: April 30, 2014, 02:48:21 PM »
That's what people said about Cannavaro though. Not that Clark will be as good, or anywhere near as good, or anywhere near that even, but he still has the reading of the game and the physical courage to succeed, I think.

Closer to home, Gareth Southgate was hardly a brick shithouse either.

Indeed. I don't remember Gary Cahill looking too similar to a bodybuilder, whereas Zat Knight is a total powerhouse. It takes all sorts I think.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #5294 on: April 30, 2014, 02:50:45 PM »
I agree but then Southgate and say Barry were comfortable in midfield which i still think Clark could be

 


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