The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[not3bad]

I've just gone on line and notice he is still manager, I take it the meeting has been set for later this afternoon?

Nothing will happen before the end of the season, as it was with Mcleish.

[bob]

I don't think there is any chance they have sacked him and I don't think they will sack him at the end of the season.

They are probably happy enough that wages are down. That's what they employed him to do. If we are relegated I don't think it will make any difference because Lerner doesn't want to pay for any more manager dismissals. We can cut wages even further then.

[Concrete John]

I've just gone on line and notice he is still manager, I take it the meeting has been set for later this afternoon?

Nothing will happen before the end of the season, as it was with Mcleish.

Whether you want him gone or not, this is true.

I'd go a step further and say that IF they're going to do it, it'll be within a week of the final game of the season.  So if he's still our manager by 18th May, then I think he's here for another season at least.

[pauliewalnuts]

FWIW I don't think they will sack him, either. I think there's pretty much no chance of that happening.

[bob]

Do clubs ever sack their manager but keep him on until the end of the season? Does that happen?

"Paul, things aren't working out. We're terminating your contract at the end of the season, but you can stay on for the last four games if you like.

Now, you go out there and keep us up!"

[not3bad]

FWIW I don't think they will sack him, either. I think there's pretty much no chance of that happening.

Even if he ends up on the same or less points than Mcleish did?

[Clampy]

I think they will get rid of him if get carries on getting the kind of stick he got at Palace. 

[Des Little]

I think he's gone straight after the season ends. 

[pauliewalnuts]

FWIW I don't think they will sack him, either. I think there's pretty much no chance of that happening.

Even if he ends up on the same or less points than Mcleish did?

Yes, even if we do worse than McLeish did.

In fact, I think he'd probably still be here if we got relegated.

That's the thing that scares me the most. Not specifically that Lambert will stay, but the degree to which they think they're actually being quite clever with this "strategy" of theirs and that it just needs time and patience.

[pauliewalnuts]

Which begs the question "Do you think they're stupid?"

I am starting to think that I genuinely do believe that, as it happens, yes.

[Boz]

I've just gone on line and notice he is still manager, I take it the meeting has been set for later this afternoon?

Nothing will happen before the end of the season, as it was with Mcleish.

Whether you want him gone or not, this is true.

I'd go a step further and say that IF they're going to do it, it'll be within a week of the final game of the season.  So if he's still our manager by 18th May, then I think he's here for another season at least.

If we are relegated, he'll be gone IMO.  The loss of Premiership revenue must stir Lerner's disinterest, and if he's contemplating selling, Villa must stay up.

However, even if we stay up, I think he could still go, as the fans ire will continue at the thought of another season of the dire football being served up, will only increase the protests very early on in the new season.

There may be a stay of execution if there is a new owner on the horizon, to allow them to find a new manager of their choosing.

[sirlordbaltimore]

Today's Telegraph ... must be a joke surely ?

Aston Villa are ready to reaffirm their commitment to Paul Lambert after opening negotiations over a new ­contract for the manager.

Villa have initiated talks with ­Lambert over an extension to his present contract and the club are confident of reaching an agreement before the end of this season.
Lambert has just under 18 months remaining at Villa Park but Randy Lerner, the club’s owner, is fully behind the 44-year-old Scot and determined to introduce further ­stability by persuading him to stay on for a longer period.

Villa have appointed three managers since Martin O’Neill left in August 2010 and Lerner is reluctant to avoid any more upheaval at the club.
Tentative discussions were held with Paul Faulkner, the chief executive, in January and while Villa are relaxed about the situation it is understood that Lambert is prepared to sign a new contract in the next few months. It is likely to be another three-year deal with improved terms.

Lerner maintains an excellent working relationship with Lambert, with the pair speaking at least four times a week, and the owner believes his manager has performed an impressive rebuilding job during a period in which Villa have battled to lower their wage bill.

Despite offloading a number of high earners permanently, including Stephen Ireland and Richard Dunne, Villa have still spent more than £40 million on transfer fees since Lambert’s appointment in June 2012.
Lambert’s first season at Villa Park proved turbulent, including an embarrassing Capital One Cup semi-final defeat against Bradford City and an 8-0 thrashing at Chelsea, but five victories from the club’s last 10 Premier League matches have enabled Villa to move away from the ­relegation zone.

This season has proven equally unpredictable and the former ­Nor­wich City manager has come under fire from a number of fans after a dismal run of results, particularly around the Christmas period. Home form has undoubtedly con­tributed to the criticism, with the 4-3 win against West Bromwich Albion last week just their 12th victory in 50 league games in front of their own fans.

Villa are only five points adrift of the drop zone but Lerner’s support has never wavered and he is ­convinced that progress is being made towards the long-term vision.

Lerner’s own position has come under scrutiny in recent months as he has not attended a home match so far this season. But the American still watches every game by video link and remains fully involved with the day-to-day running of the club.
Villa have also reacted strongly to reports that the club are up for sale, insisting that Lerner has no plans to walk away after pumping in £250  million since he assumed control in August 2006.

Faulkner said: “I can categorically confirm Aston Villa Football Club has absolutely not been put up for sale and that Randy Lerner is not actively looking to sell the club.”

Lerner’s commitment towards Villa will be underlined by his decision to start contract talks with Lambert.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/10615174/Aston-Villa-ready-to-offer-manager-Paul-Lambert-a-new-contract.html

[pauliewalnuts]

Well it was "today's Telegraph" when "today" was February 3rd.

[rob_bridge]

Which begs the question "Do you think they're stupid?"

I am starting to think that I genuinely do believe that, as it happens, yes.

5 more defeats and he will be gone.

And so will we. To the Chumpionship.

[Dr Butler]

the fans turned on Sat, the lad and his mate behind me used every expletive they could to vent their anger at the team and Lambert, no-one was safe from their barrage.

until 20 mins into the game  I thought we actually played OK kept the ball well and let their crowd start to get on top of their players.......after that ? fuck knows what happened to us until the last 5 mins...

Sadly it seems a combined element of injuries, poor players, poor tactics, poor managemnt, lack of passion has given us another bloody awful season.

See you Sat...UTV