The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[Rudy Can't Fail]

We're been top 5 or 6 net spenders over the last 5 years. Lerner has done all that's expected of him which is to provide the finance. Lambert has failed to on his side to come up with anything worth watching after almost 2 seasons. If anything, it's getting uglier.

[PeterWithesShin]

The theory is as we shift wages off we can add some back so can shop at a higher level. Whether it is the reality is a whole different thing. I was convinced we'd spend another £20ish mill this summer, but on 3 or 4 quality players. If Lambert goes who knows as we're kind of back to square one with a new manager.

[Damo70]

I think most of us agree that we still spend a reasonable amount on transfer fees but the evidence suggests who that money is spent on depends on the wages involved. But if we wanted Barry there should have been no excuse. We would have been taking him on for a year and I doubt City would have demanded 100% of his wages because I don't reckon Everton could or would have paid that.

[PeterWithesShin]

P.s. if any of my posts make even less sense than usual my apologies. I've had a couple of shandies and am typing on my phone. So beer, small keyboard and predictive text aren't the best combination!

[Steve67]

Useless Manager, breaking records all over the place. Absolutely shocking.

[olaftab]

We're been top 5 or 6 net spenders over the last 5 years. Lerner has done all that's expected of him which is to provide the finance. Lambert has failed to on his side to come up with anything worth watching after almost 2 seasons. If anything, it's getting uglier.

Yes there is no point in shifting the blame  here. Lambert made a bid for the job and knew the conditions. He chose a particular strategy and has failed miserably.

[pauliewalnuts]

The theory is as we shift wages off we can add some back so can shop at a higher level. Whether it is the reality is a whole different thing.

And that's the problem. We assumed it would be the case. It didn't happen last summer. It didn't happen in January.

We keep making excuses - it'll change when the "bomb squad" (which was created by the club themselves) are shifted. It'll change when Hutton goes permanently. It'll change when Given goes. It'll change when N'Zogbia goes (who the manager says wasnt on holiday, contradicting the post here by the father of the bloke who spoke to him in Morocco).

It just seems an ever shifting sea of excuses and reasons and unwarranted benefit of the doubt which we give them.

i think the transfer policy will change, but when it does, it'll be too late.

Another £20m this summer spent on low wage players would make about as much difference as it did last summer - none.

Theyve told us for years that the problem is the wage bill. This is how it affects us in real world terms.

[saunders_heroes]

We're been top 5 or 6 net spenders over the last 5 years. Lerner has done all that's expected of him which is to provide the finance. Lambert has failed to on his side to come up with anything worth watching after almost 2 seasons. If anything, it's getting uglier.

Good god. Do you not understand the wage issue? It's the reason no decent player will sign for us!

[olaftab]

P.s. if any of my posts make even less sense than usual my apologies. I've had a couple of shandies and am typing on my phone. So beer, small keyboard and predictive text aren't the best combination!

Tonight they make more sense than usual!

[PeterWithesShin]

The squad still needed filling last summer though, Okore and Kozak weren't cheap, and a few players got new contracts as well so as i said there is some money being spent. Both fees and wages. This summer, if Lambert is still in charge, the squad doesn't need filling, now it's out and out starting 11 players we'd have been after. Plus maybe one or two Helenius type punts.

[Damo70]

The thing I don't get with Lambert's bomb squad is if you don't rate them and/or just want them off the books sell them. If you can't sell Bent or Given and have to loan them to clubs who probably only pay some of their wages why not stick them on the bench. Rather than keep paying them to train with the kids, part paying them to play for someone else and buy and have Steer and Bowery (who I presume we pay a few quid in wages for) on the bench.

[PeterWithesShin]

P.s. if any of my posts make even less sense than usual my apologies. I've had a couple of shandies and am typing on my phone. So beer, small keyboard and predictive text aren't the best combination!

Tonight they make more sense than usual!

Piss orf ya cheeky bugger!

[Monty]

Lambert's reaching the responsibility-ducking phase, where anything that goes wrong is everyone else's fault. There are only two steps beyond this: first, the 'I accept full responsibility' phase; second, the 'I accept my full pay-off' phase.

[Clampy]

We're been top 5 or 6 net spenders over the last 5 years. Lerner has done all that's expected of him which is to provide the finance. Lambert has failed to on his side to come up with anything worth watching after almost 2 seasons. If anything, it's getting uglier.

Good god. Do you not understand the wage issue? It's the reason no decent player will sign for us!

Whether that's the case or not, we shouldn't be down the bottom end of the table struggling on 34 points anyway.

[Damo70]

If a manger can't do better than he has in the circumstances, which haven't been ideal but haven't been terrible either then he should go. If he had the same record over two seasons at a league two club who can't afford tracksuits they would have replaced him.