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Offline supertom

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #3765 on: April 11, 2014, 05:49:32 PM »
The reasoning given for the McLeish sacking was of course 2 years ago. Whether that reasoning would be considered again now, remains to be seen. There are several factors, be it a change in the boards expectation levels for bare minimum achievement (which may have dropped from mid-table obscurity to simply survival) for one.
The second is that Lambert actually fit the remit of building a young and cheap squad. It was a new way of thinking and we've pushed ahead with it (for better and worse) with a lot of conviction. Now this probably didn't fit into how McLeish would have wanted it, nor possibly Houllier. Lambert has bought into this ideal and has implemented it for 2 years.

I think possibly one of the biggest factors, as to why a piss poor season like this one, may not necessarily mean curtains for Lambert (where-as it did for McLeish, and to some extent Houllier) is the financial implications of sacking yet another manager. I think unless absolutely, entirely necessary, Randy will hold off sacking Lambert because of the cost. Talk of the new contract, I would imagine (and hope) will now hold off until next year. When that talk first surfaced, we were a lot more comfortable. We were shit certainly, but seemed as if a fairly comfortable finish of 10th-12th was on the cards. How true that actually was, I don't know but from a possible new contract was first mentioned in the press, to now, Randy might have assumed we'd have crossed 40 points by now. We haven't of course.

I don't think there's a cat in hells chance that we'll sack Lambert in the summer (possibly even if we went down). It'll go one of three ways. Most likely Lambert will be given his final year to try and improve things. If he doesn't, he'll see out his contract, then we'll look elsewhere. Come Jan next year if we look like we're improving he might get his extension. The third possibility is that we've started disastrously and look in serious trouble come Xmas, in which case Randy may decide to pull the trigger, but honestly, I think he'll hold off.

That's how I see it. Randy might turn around and give Lambert the old heave ho with a few mill of undeserved severance in his back pocket in May but I doubt it.

Offline Monty

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #3766 on: April 11, 2014, 05:52:06 PM »
At least if he sacked him in the summer he'd only be paying him off one years' salary as opposed to his usual two, which would be something of a PB for Lerner.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #3767 on: April 11, 2014, 05:54:41 PM »
That's assuming it needs to be the tin tack at all. 

If there is interest from another club, the powers that be might be quite happy to let him move on. 

No compensation, no aggravation.

Offline Rudy Can't Fail

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #3768 on: April 11, 2014, 06:36:34 PM »
That's assuming it needs to be the tin tack at all. 

If there is interest from another club, the powers that be might be quite happy to let him move on. 

No compensation, no aggravation.

Ah, the Celtic job. We can but dream. I was extremely disappointed to hear Lennon on MOTD deny any contact with Norwich and even claim how shortsighted it was by the Norwich board to let Hughton go. I can't see any other Premier League club interested in Lambert. Maybe Leeds with their new Italian owner but he wouldn't last long there even if he got them promoted. See Archie's posts on here to understand why.

Offline sirlordbaltimore

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #3769 on: April 11, 2014, 06:41:12 PM »

I reckon Lambert will be lucky to work in the English top flight ever again once he's been given the boot. Celtic seems plausible but even in the SPL they'd have to be mad


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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #3770 on: April 11, 2014, 06:42:50 PM »
I reckon Lambert will be lucky to work in the English top flight ever again once he's been given the boot. Celtic seems plausible but even in the SPL they'd have to be mad
Why?

They could put one of the training cones in charge and they would still win the league.

Offline supertom

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #3771 on: April 11, 2014, 07:09:59 PM »
I reckon Lambert will be lucky to work in the English top flight ever again once he's been given the boot. Celtic seems plausible but even in the SPL they'd have to be mad
Why?

They could put one of the training cones in charge and they would still win the league.
I vote for Training Cone as our next manager!

Offline Richard E

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #3772 on: April 11, 2014, 07:12:24 PM »
The fact that Neil Lennon could be available in the summer is possibly the best 'keep Lambert' argument I've heard so far.

Offline KevinGage

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #3773 on: April 11, 2014, 07:22:10 PM »
That's assuming it needs to be the tin tack at all. 

If there is interest from another club, the powers that be might be quite happy to let him move on. 

No compensation, no aggravation.

Ah, the Celtic job. We can but dream. I was extremely disappointed to hear Lennon on MOTD deny any contact with Norwich and even claim how shortsighted it was by the Norwich board to let Hughton go. I can't see any other Premier League club interested in Lambert. Maybe Leeds with their new Italian owner but he wouldn't last long there even if he got them promoted. See Archie's posts on here to understand why.

QPR might need some pretty drastic cuts this summer, should 'arry fail in the play offs. 

He has shown aptitude for getting out of that division before, with lower budgets than prob half of that division. 

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #3774 on: April 11, 2014, 07:32:00 PM »
McLeish was sacked after a disappointing season.

Therefore Lambert should go.

you could say Lamberts had two

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #3775 on: April 11, 2014, 07:54:52 PM »
Supertom, I think your wrong
a bad or even poor end to the season and I think he 'l be gone

Of course when the new owners ship in he 'l be the first out and we will be appointing from the cream of European football management,
so as the great Bob said ' don't worry about a thing'

Offline Mister E

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #3776 on: April 11, 2014, 08:51:32 PM »
Supertom, I think your wrong
a bad or even poor end to the season and I think he 'l be gone

Of course when the new owners ship in he 'l be the first out and we will be appointing from the cream of European football management,
so as the great Bob said ' don't worry about a thing'
I think you mean 'ting'

Offline supertom

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #3777 on: April 11, 2014, 09:20:27 PM »
Supertom, I think your wrong
a bad or even poor end to the season and I think he 'l be gone

Of course when the new owners ship in he 'l be the first out and we will be appointing from the cream of European football management,
so as the great Bob said ' don't worry about a thing'
I hope I am wrong mate. I don't see him even matching the points tally from last season. He'll struggle to hit 40 points. Whichever way you look at it, it's gonna be in or around McLeish. Logic and previous history would dictate he has to go. Whether our finances dictate something else remains to be seen. I do worry that our ambitions have becomes even lower than they were 2 years ago though.

Offline mike

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #3778 on: April 11, 2014, 10:17:55 PM »
That's assuming it needs to be the tin tack at all. 

If there is interest from another club, the powers that be might be quite happy to let him move on. 

No compensation, no aggravation.

If there's interest from another club after what he's achieved here I want the chairman's email address so I can tell him I need his bank details to prevent his account being suspended.

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #3779 on: April 11, 2014, 10:59:20 PM »

I reckon Lambert will be lucky to work in the English top flight ever again once he's been given the boot. Celtic seems plausible but even in the SPL they'd have to be mad

Aside from SGT at the time, No ex-Villa manager in my (supporting) lifetime went on to a bigger job and none did anything of real note other than SGT aside when he went back to Watford.

He will become an also ran. Celtic won't pay us £1.5-2m for him.

 


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