The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[Fin Feds Dad]

If he was sacked now who would fill in for the last 6 games?

I would ask Sid . One sure way to galvanise the support for the run in.

[Monty]

MON was alright, but with that amount of money spent you want better tactics than what any old fucker down the pub could've thought of.

[Ads]

For the level of outlay, we should have been winning more than 7 home games. Sounds eerily familiar.

[Ron Manager]

The most depressing and alarming thing is that there are pages and pages of discussion on if Lambert should be sacked.
He humiliated our beloved and noble club in any manner doing things that I had never seen in a football pitch, no matter the category, and still we are discussing IF he should be sacked.

Believe me mates, that could happen only in England. In any other country of the world he would have been sacked 4 months ago, if not last season.

Please note that I do not want to criticize, you surely have a culture and a vision of football that is unique in the world, but one thing that I do not understand is how you can give to the stability  more importance than to the logic.

Well Doug upset many supporters in his time. But he would have got rid of this manager at least twice.As Mr Lerner does not make statements either verbal or written how are we supposed to know that he is interested in the fortunes of Aston Villa FC?

[manic-road]

The most depressing and alarming thing is that there are pages and pages of discussion on if Lambert should be sacked.
He humiliated our beloved and noble club in any manner doing things that I had never seen in a football pitch, no matter the category, and still we are discussing IF he should be sacked.

Believe me mates, that could happen only in England. In any other country of the world he would have been sacked 4 months ago, if not last season.

Please note that I do not want to criticize, you surely have a culture and a vision of football that is unique in the world, but one thing that I do not understand is how you can give to the stability  more importance than to the logic.

Well Doug upset many supporters in his time. But he would have got rid of this manager at least twice.As Mr Lerner does not make statements either verbal or written how are we supposed to know that he is interested in the fortunes of Aston Villa FC?

Doug would have backed his manager with the funds to buy players, we can't keep going from season after season in a transition period every time the manager is changed.

 Unless Lerner starts to back his manager with the transfer funds required to buy quality players instead of shopping at the pound shop we will remain a mediocre team for many years.

[VinnieChase84]

I'm 30 this year and I'm seriously struggling to think of a worse manager in that time than lambert!?
Mcleish- maybe. DOL - at least we had one good season under him.
Lambert has to go, he's had more than enough time. To lament and constantly refer to our youngsters learning, is a complete cop out, cause
1) he doesn't have to buy young utter shite
2) most of these 'youngsters' are mid 20's and have upwards of 50 premier league games. Not so young or inexperienced really
Just hoping to come on here and see he's gone in the near future

[saunders_heroes]

The most depressing and alarming thing is that there are pages and pages of discussion on if Lambert should be sacked.
He humiliated our beloved and noble club in any manner doing things that I had never seen in a football pitch, no matter the category, and still we are discussing IF he should be sacked.

Believe me mates, that could happen only in England. In any other country of the world he would have been sacked 4 months ago, if not last season.

Please note that I do not want to criticize, you surely have a culture and a vision of football that is unique in the world, but one thing that I do not understand is how you can give to the stability  more importance than to the logic.

Well Doug upset many supporters in his time. But he would have got rid of this manager at least twice.As Mr Lerner does not make statements either verbal or written how are we supposed to know that he is interested in the fortunes of Aston Villa FC?

Ellis would have sacked Lambert the very day after we were humiliated 8-0 at Chelsea, and rightly so as well.

[LeeB]

The most depressing and alarming thing is that there are pages and pages of discussion on if Lambert should be sacked.
He humiliated our beloved and noble club in any manner doing things that I had never seen in a football pitch, no matter the category, and still we are discussing IF he should be sacked.

Believe me mates, that could happen only in England. In any other country of the world he would have been sacked 4 months ago, if not last season.

Please note that I do not want to criticize, you surely have a culture and a vision of football that is unique in the world, but one thing that I do not understand is how you can give to the stability  more importance than to the logic.

Well Doug upset many supporters in his time. But he would have got rid of this manager at least twice.As Mr Lerner does not make statements either verbal or written how are we supposed to know that he is interested in the fortunes of Aston Villa FC?

Ellis would have sacked Lambert the very day after we were humiliated 8-0 at Chelsea, and rightly so as well.

Firstly, Ellis didn't back O'Leary and Taylor with much, certainly not out of his fucking pocket, and secondly he sacked Barton.

And thirdly, if you believe the self-aggrandising prick, he appointed O'Neill, so indirectly he caused the fucking mess we've found ourselves in.

[curlytailavfc]

Its a poor state of affairs at the Villa now, or there bothered about is pushing for season ticket renewal, this is my 50th season going to Villa park and its like watching annoying programs that are on tv, or listening to franksie on wm, but the problem is I havn't a on off button for the villa. Lerner has so press the off lambert button now.

[saunders_heroes]

The most depressing and alarming thing is that there are pages and pages of discussion on if Lambert should be sacked.
He humiliated our beloved and noble club in any manner doing things that I had never seen in a football pitch, no matter the category, and still we are discussing IF he should be sacked.

Believe me mates, that could happen only in England. In any other country of the world he would have been sacked 4 months ago, if not last season.

Please note that I do not want to criticize, you surely have a culture and a vision of football that is unique in the world, but one thing that I do not understand is how you can give to the stability  more importance than to the logic.

Well Doug upset many supporters in his time. But he would have got rid of this manager at least twice.As Mr Lerner does not make statements either verbal or written how are we supposed to know that he is interested in the fortunes of Aston Villa FC?

Ellis would have sacked Lambert the very day after we were humiliated 8-0 at Chelsea, and rightly so as well.

Firstly, Ellis didn't back O'Leary and Taylor with much, certainly not out of his fucking pocket, and secondly he sacked Barton.

And thirdly, if you believe the self-aggrandising prick, he appointed O'Neill, so indirectly he caused the fucking mess we've found ourselves in.

The buck stops with Lerner. It is Lerner who has caused the problems at Villa and nobody else. He signs the cheques therefore he is in control, not the bloody manager. The very fact he has allowed Lambert to fester at Villa proves how incompetent he is at being chairman.

[LeeB]

I don't necessarily disagree, but the "Doug wouldn't have done this way" stuff pisses me off.

Doug was an utter arse that used this club for his own ends, and he's responsible more than any one person for the sea of mediocraty I've witnessed as a supporter since 1985.

[Deano's Mullet]

Doug wasn't perfect but by god it was more fun in them days.  To be fair under Doug football was still not quite so totally money dominated, you could be good one year (89-90), crap the next (90-91), good again two years later (92-93), trophy winners (93-94), crap again (94-95) and the v v good again one year later (95-96). Under Gregory we started well but but became a merely solid side, under O'Leary we started well but looked like relegation fodder after two years, I'd have put that down to DOL though. I don't recall people moaning when we bought Baros, Angel, etc. The Lerner era started well but I don't think he really figured out just how much cash you had to chuck at football by then to do well. Under O'Neill we showed a lot of promise but the last three years of McCleish and Lambert we honestly are pennypinching and unambitious in a way that you could never say occurred during the Doug era. This is far worse than the "dark days" of 2004-06 under DOL.. At least O'Leary had some tactical nous about him. Lambert has none, cant motivate and worries far too much about the opposition.

[Ads]

It's Dougs fault for not having the vision that Edwards or Bates had and saw the Premier League for what it was.

[saunders_heroes]

I don't necessarily disagree, but the "Doug wouldn't have done this way" stuff pisses me off.

Doug was an utter arse that used this club for his own ends, and he's responsible more than any one person for the sea of mediocraty I've witnessed as a supporter since 1985.

Why does it piss you off? I've no doubt Ellis would have sacked Lambert long before now and I'm convinced he would have sacked him after the 8-0 humiliation at Chelsea, and rightly so as well.
And I wouldn't mind some of that Ellis mediocrity right now. I don't ever remember losing 19 home matches in less than 2 seasons under Ellis.

[SoccerHQ]

Turner was as culpable as McNeill, Docherty had us bottom, O'Leary proved he couldn't do it without money and somehow managed to alienate the squad and support under Dougs nadir. McLeish goes without saying and Dr Jo may have been ahead of his time, but he was still poor.

Taylor, Little and Atkinson all had seasons equivalent to this one or the previous one, so even our very best in recent years have their wobbles. I would put all three above Gregory and O'Neill though.

Oh for FFS get a grip mate, O'Neill get 3 consecutive top 6 finishes! We'd die for that now!

You do realise he said SGT, Atkinson and Sir Brian were better than Pubehead, not that Lambert was?

As I said earlier, get a grip mate, I know you're trying to make out O'Neill was the Anti Christ but no matter how you try you won't change history. His Villa teams finished top 6 three years on the trot, but since he left we've we've become perennial relegation strugglers. This is a fact - nothing you will say will change this.

He would've struggled to do that on a 20m transfer budget with respect seeing as he left Sunderland in 15th place on a 20m transfer budget.