The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[villan from luton]

How many Villa managers have been worse than Lambert? i'll start with McNeill.
Next?

I'd still put O'Leary in there.

Dr Jo werent good

Miles ahead of Lambert. Check his recod

We had a slightly better team to be fair, had we not finished 2nd the season before?

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Turner was as culpable as McNeill, Docherty had us bottom, O'Leary proved he couldn't do it without money and somehow managed to alienate the squad and support under Dougs nadir. McLeish goes without saying and Dr Jo may have been ahead of his time, but he was still poor.

Taylor, Little and Atkinson all had seasons equivalent to this one or the previous one, so even our very best in recent years have their wobbles. I would put all three above Gregory and O'Neill though.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Richard, what point are you trying to prove when telling people you knew all along this how it would end up? None of us really know how things are going to turn out, and if you end up being right or wrong it still doesn't mean you knew it all along. Right now, I don't see any value in scoring points. We should all be in this together, and for the first time most people on here are of the same opinion. It's not a good day.

TV you are the only one trying to score points and start on people tonight.

Excuse me for butting into your dispute but I completely disagree.  You and Richard in particular seem to be revelling in how right you've been all along.  I've found your tone hostile and provocative when referring to or addressing anyone who might not have been as clever as you (ie. anyone who hasn't been calling Lambert a "moron" and an "idiot" for at least a year).  Toronto has, relatively speaking, come across as a voice of reason, and your reaction is to be smug and condescending.  I've seen a few of you do this on here recently; you fuel an argument with a vociferous outburst, and then have the nerve to claim the moral high ground when a few more level-headed people take exception to your attitude.  And then you back each other up with a grin and a wink and it's other people who "hunt in packs".  You don't come across as being overly pleasant.  Sorry if that takes the edge of your champers but I felt the urge to say it.     

I now await you all proving my point with your accusations of wanting to be a moderator, waiting in the wings, being sanctimonious, all that guff.  You can set your clock by it, eh DC5? 

Nobody revels in our predicament, particularly those who are not so blinkered as to know that we are in one.

Richard is revelling in it, big time.  He said so himself.  Weakens your argument a tad. 

[Chico Hamilton III]

To be honest, it's hard to compare previous managers with Lambert because Doug would have sacked the useless twat 12 months ago before we'd have sunk to the level we're now in

[aj2k77]

This is a joke because virtually every single month we have a should we sack Paul Lamberk poll. Doesn't that just say it all? We fluke a result a month, which earns him a stay of execution before being shit for the next 4 or 5 games which puts pressure on him again. It's become laughable, we are laughable.

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We won half our games in March, we will probably win half of them in April too.

[SoccerHQ]

I still quite like him, for some reason I can't quite fathom.

I just don't want him managing my football club beyond this summer.

I would change to 'beyond today'

That would make an amusing banner draped across the Holte!

[bertlambshank]

Richard, what point are you trying to prove when telling people you knew all along this how it would end up? None of us really know how things are going to turn out, and if you end up being right or wrong it still doesn't mean you knew it all along. Right now, I don't see any value in scoring points. We should all be in this together, and for the first time most people on here are of the same opinion. It's not a good day.

TV you are the only one trying to score points and start on people tonight.

Excuse me for butting into your dispute but I completely disagree.  You and Richard in particular seem to be revelling in how right you've been all along.  I've found your tone hostile and provocative when referring to or addressing anyone who might not have been as clever as you (ie. anyone who hasn't been calling Lambert a "moron" and an "idiot" for at least a year).  Toronto has, relatively speaking, come across as a voice of reason, and your reaction is to be smug and condescending.  I've seen a few of you do this on here recently; you fuel an argument with a vociferous outburst, and then have the nerve to claim the moral high ground when a few more level-headed people take exception to your attitude.  And then you back each other up with a grin and a wink and it's other people who "hunt in packs".  You don't come across as being overly pleasant.  Sorry if that takes the edge of your champers but I felt the urge to say it.     

I now await you all proving my point with your accusations of wanting to be a moderator, waiting in the wings, being sanctimonious, all that guff.  You can set your clock by it, eh DC5? 

Nobody revels in our predicament, particularly those who are not so blinkered as to know that we are in one.

Richard is revelling in it, big time.  He said so himself.  Weakens your argument a tad. 

Can you please show me where I have been revelling about us losing.I tell you what don't bother looking for it because I haven't.

[supertom]

The 15 goals conceded in 3 games, Bradford, Millwall and Sheff Utd. Those all take some beating in the shite stakes.
How I'd rank the bottom 5 managers in my time I don't know, I do know Lambert is among the bottom. What you see on the pitch accounts for a lot too. I've never seen us look as consistently clueless and disorganised as we have under Lambert. Even under McLeish we were somewhat well organised (in the most dour fashion sadly).

We've played a lot of football this season every bit as dour as McLeish could muster too.

But then comparing some of these managers is like comparing dog turds in the park, so I'll stop now and daydream about beating Utd in the Coke final in 94. 

[villan from luton]

To be honest, it's hard to compare previous managers with Lambert because Doug would have sacked the useless twat 12 months ago before we'd have sunk to the level we're now in

He wanted to sack Sir Ron if he had won his boardroom coup. Do agree with you though. I know we have average players, but so do many others and they try and play football and it is better than ours

[aj2k77]

We won half our games in March, we will probably win half of them in April too.

we've won 4 in 19.

[Leighton]

We won half our games in March, we will probably win half of them in April too.

But at the end of the season the table won't read:
Aston Villa. P38 W19 L19 Pts57

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I fancy us against Palace and Swansea though.

[supertom]

We won half our games in March, we will probably win half of them in April too.

That'll be the new manager effect then...

[saunders_heroes]

We won half our games in March, we will probably win half of them in April too.

Talking of stats - we've lost 10 home games this season. An absolute amonination of a record which we broken this season.