collapse collapse

Please donate to help towards the costs of keeping this site going. Thank You.

Recent Topics

Reserves and Academy 2025-26 by dcdavecollett
[Today at 02:43:04 AM]


Loanwatch 2025-26 by dcdavecollett
[Today at 02:41:14 AM]


Season Ticket 2025/26 by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 02:22:37 AM]


FFP by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 02:12:28 AM]


Other Games 2025-26 by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 02:09:44 AM]


Aston Villa v Newcastle Post-Match Thread by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 01:54:29 AM]


MOTD by Rory
[Today at 01:25:53 AM]


Amadou Onana by eamonn
[Today at 01:23:09 AM]

Recent Posts

Re: Reserves and Academy 2025-26 by dcdavecollett
[Today at 02:43:04 AM]


Re: Loanwatch 2025-26 by dcdavecollett
[Today at 02:41:14 AM]


Re: Season Ticket 2025/26 by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 02:22:37 AM]


Re: Loanwatch 2025-26 by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 02:20:06 AM]


Re: FFP by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 02:12:28 AM]


Re: Other Games 2025-26 by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 02:09:44 AM]


Re: Other Games 2025-26 by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 02:06:47 AM]


Re: Aston Villa v Newcastle Post-Match Thread by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 01:54:29 AM]

Follow us on...

Author Topic: The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull  (Read 1763536 times)

Offline Virgil Caine

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1312
  • Age: 68
  • Location: Bedfordshire and its not as bad as you think it might be.
  • GM : 22.07.2026
Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #1515 on: February 24, 2014, 02:06:30 PM »
I get the feeling that because the fans have shown some major patience the last 2 years in the face of what I would say is consistently the worst football played at the club for 25 years the hierarchy are ignorant to the feelings of what is going on.

It isn't acceptable to be the worst home side in Europe for 3 years
It isn't acceptable to be beaten by Bradford over 2 legs
It isn't acceptable to be knocked out of the cups by lower league teams repeatedly
It isn't acceptable to buy bargain basement players from lower leagues and throw them into the first team
It isn't acceptable to have a manager insult our intelligence week after week and tell us how well weve played after another defeat

and it isn't fucking acceptable to trundle along on the premis of  some project that no one have had the decency to tell us exactly what is it, what stage we are at and what our next moves are likely to be like.

I am seriously fucked off with the club and have been for 12 months. How do you guys go game in game out and not tear your hair out?

I'm bald as a coote.

It is also not acceptable for a Villa side to play without any Plan B when Plan A is a busted flush.
It is not acceptable for a Villa side to be on the end of an 8-0 drubbing by a team in the same league.
It is not acceptable to treat, for the last 4 years, your paying customers as some form of cash cow.
It is not acceptable to forget that for the most part of its history AVFC has been THE team of the Midlands region.
It is not acceptable to have a complete absence of any tactical nous when it comes to free kicks, corners and throw ins.
It is not acceptable for a Manager of Aston Villa to be in denial regarding the lack of quality of the playing staff and not to repair that deficiency in the transfer market.

Offline eastie

  • Member
  • Posts: 19940
  • Age: 59
Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #1516 on: February 24, 2014, 02:07:51 PM »
Most Boards would have given their manager the bullet after "15-0 Christmas" was followed by Bradford and Millwall, but the decision to stick with their man might have been vindicated if there was some sign that the medicine had worked and we were coming out the other side.

Another lower division Cup exit (at home!) this season and the fact that we are not even now regularly beating the teams around us suggest that there is no reason to believe that the upturn is coming.

I always try to see the glass as being half-full with Villa but something has to change.

A good offer might see not only Benteke gone in the summer but perhaps even Guzan and Delph. Take away 1-2 of our better players and then there's trouble. I wouldn't trust Lambert to get it right in the transfer window, nor would I trust Lerner to re-invest all the Benteke fee (dwindling by the week) into signings.

If not this season, next season will probably see us fall into the Champ. There's just a depressing inevitability about it.

If lambert stays he will take us down either this season or next season - I'd get rid now but I fear they will wait until the end of the season - either way I cannot see how he can survive much longer .

Offline aj2k77

  • Member
  • Posts: 11740
Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #1517 on: February 24, 2014, 02:09:57 PM »
I'd like a fans forum with Lambert. I think he'd get killed. I don't trust him with another penny. I think his mind is puzzled and unclear now, take too many beatings and it's hard to bounce back without being dazed.

As the season goes on more and more of his decisions are becoming baffling. I think he's punch drunk.  He might be kidding himself after another terrible performance that he thrives under the pressure and we are playing well but he isn't kidding me.


Offline Dribbler

  • Member
  • Posts: 317
Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #1518 on: February 24, 2014, 02:20:41 PM »
Just looking at the latest premiership form guides and we have the 20th best home form in the league, the 13th best away form, and the 17th best overall form and over the last 6 games. I'll habit a guess that is going to get worse after the next 4-5 games and that when it does we will drop into the bottom 3.

The worrying thing with Lambert is that he seems to think that we are doing ok and that if we carry on doing what we've been doing we will be ok come the end of the season. His seeming complacency or inability to address our very obvious issues in the transfer window i fear could be our undoing.

Statistics and our league position are now starting to tell us what our eyes have been seeing from our performances in games all season, we are currently one of the worst football teams in this league in many many regards and yet we know nothing is going to change. I'm sure it's been said before, but a definition of stupidity is doing the same things and expecting different outcomes. From what I've seen i just don't see everything suddenly clicking and us going on a great run until the end of the season.

For that reason i think we need a shakeup now, someone to come in, re-motivate & galvanise the squad for the run in and change our tactics around a bit so that we are less predictable and utilise our strengths more. Pretty much every manager has Lambert's number now. As it is we are sleepwalking towards relegation where our only chances of survival rely not on what we do, but what others do. As the form guide shows us, our relying on 3 teams worse than us to stay up, is looking a pretty sketchy straw at which to grasp.

Offline eastie

  • Member
  • Posts: 19940
  • Age: 59
Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #1519 on: February 24, 2014, 02:23:41 PM »
The thing is our recent dreadful record has been against teams many expected us to beat - we now have some very tough games ahead and I fear things will worsen in march.

Offline Irish villain

  • Member
  • Posts: 8526
  • Age: 39
Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #1520 on: February 24, 2014, 02:31:03 PM »
The thing is our recent dreadful record has been against teams many expected us to beat - we now have some very tough games ahead and I fear things will worsen in march.

It's not recent though. This has been on the cards since about late October when we started labouring to points against the likes of Sunderland at Villa Park. When we lost to Fulham that day I was apoplectic because it was so comfortable for them. We were then shocking at home to Palace and away at Stoke and thank fook we managed to beat Southampton and Sunderland away despite not playing so well.

You cannot be so bad so often in this league because the table will, after 38 games, reflect that.

Can anybody see us winning the three games we need to reach 37 points?I think it will take another smash and grab or two away and possibly another gift from the opposition to get us over the line.

Offline eastie

  • Member
  • Posts: 19940
  • Age: 59
Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #1521 on: February 24, 2014, 02:31:14 PM »
Quote from: the mirror

By Simon Bird | 23/02/14 

Paul Lambert insists he is not getting relegation jitters just yet.

Lambert's Aston Villa side are 13th four points above the drop zone after three defeats in four league games and need wins quickly to avoid disaster.

A late defeat at Newcastle on Sunday heightened their air of peril, but Lambert has ordered everyone at the club to stay cool.

He said: "We're playing well, we're just not getting the break. If we were getting beat heavily or don't look like you're going to score, that's when you should be really worried, but I don't have that worry.

"There's a lot of teams well below us, and we went through this last year so we know what it's like.

 

"We don't panic on it, we just try and win the next game. When you go through something it definitely helps you.

"We're definitely a better outfit this time than last year. We didn't deserve to lose that game.

"It's another big game next weekend. We're at home. And it's a game we're going to try and win. The emotions are disappointment and frustration. I don't think we deserved to lose the game."

 

Offline Big Dick Edwards

  • Member
  • Posts: 3163
  • Location: Where the streets have no name..
Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #1522 on: February 24, 2014, 02:41:16 PM »
I've said it before on another other thread but even if we escape the drop again the club is going to see vastly reduced attendances next season if it continues with it's policy of buying only unproven players. While we may have a reasonable away record we've been consistently watching rubbish at home for a long, long time now. Even under the comparatively successful reign of O'Neill, many home games were turgid but poor performances at Villa Park now are the norm. We've been very patient as a fan base, accepting the financial restraints were necessary after O'Neill's reign but the club can't expect us to tolerate this policy indefinitely. I'm not expecting us to compete financially with the likes of Chelsea and Manchester City but I certainly do expect us to not have given up with Everton and Spurs. If Lerner really isn't interested in anything other than avoiding relegation every season he has to find a buyer and sell up because I for one will never accept this level of ambition from Aston Villa.

Offline not3bad

  • Member
  • Posts: 12218
  • Location: Back in Brum
  • GM : 15.06.2022
Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #1523 on: February 24, 2014, 02:41:45 PM »
Quote from: the mirror

By Simon Bird | 23/02/14 

Paul Lambert insists he is not getting relegation jitters just yet.

Lambert's Aston Villa side are 13th four points above the drop zone after three defeats in four league games and need wins quickly to avoid disaster.

A late defeat at Newcastle on Sunday heightened their air of peril, but Lambert has ordered everyone at the club to stay cool.

He said: "We're playing well, we're just not getting the break. If we were getting beat heavily or don't look like you're going to score, that's when you should be really worried, but I don't have that worry.

"There's a lot of teams well below us, and we went through this last year so we know what it's like.

 

"We don't panic on it, we just try and win the next game. When you go through something it definitely helps you.

"We're definitely a better outfit this time than last year. We didn't deserve to lose that game.

"It's another big game next weekend. We're at home. And it's a game we're going to try and win. The emotions are disappointment and frustration. I don't think we deserved to lose the game."

 

The bold parts are the really worrying bits.

Offline Isa

  • Member
  • Posts: 180
Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #1524 on: February 24, 2014, 02:42:53 PM »
He had the tactical nous to finish third in a two horse race in Portugal with Benfica, and took Valencia to the dizzy heights of 15th following that Spanish cup win.

No offense but you clearly know little about Portuguese football. During the period when Koeman managed there, it was a three horse race and Sporting had a relatively strong team. In recent years, they have suffered financially and have thus dropped away (though they have returned to their former competativeness this season).

Oh yes Koeman who is apparently being "released" by Feyenoord. He has a very consistent record of failure at every club he has managed since some success at Ajax in early 2000's. However having managed 7 clubs around Europe you could say he has experience!

Actually he is seeing out his contract at Feyenoord as he believes he has taken them as far as he can. I assume you just checked Wiki and made the assumption that he has 'failed' at Feyenoord just because he hasn't won anything there, not realising the mess they were in before he took charge and the modest resources he has worked under. To turn them into title-contenders has been an extraordinary achievement.

Offline Monty

  • Member
  • Posts: 29212
  • Location: pastaland
  • GM : 25.05.2024
Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #1525 on: February 24, 2014, 02:52:12 PM »
I'm not unreservedly convinced by Koeman. He has achieved some good and some bad things, but he seems to have a touch of the Jols about him, or the Laudrups, that is to say he isn't necessarily the hardest worker of players. Bielsa would be another thing all together, as would Thomas Tuchel of Mainz, but I doubt very much whether Lerner has ever heard of them.

Offline Des Little

  • Member
  • Posts: 12833
  • Location: A5 Ultra
  • GM : 03.05.2021
Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #1526 on: February 24, 2014, 02:55:02 PM »
We are not better than last year.  We are exactly the same.  Just a slightly different shade of shit.

Offline Rudy Can't Fail

  • Member
  • Posts: 41459
  • Location: In the Shade
    • http://www.heroespredictions.co.uk/pl/
Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #1527 on: February 24, 2014, 02:55:52 PM »
I've said it before on another other thread but even if we escape the drop again the club is going to see vastly reduced attendances next season if it continues with it's policy of buying only unproven players. While we may have a reasonable away record we've been consistently watching rubbish at home for a long, long time now. Even under the comparatively successful reign of O'Neill, many home games were turgid but poor performances at Villa Park now are the norm. We've been very patient as a fan base, accepting the financial restraints were necessary after O'Neill's reign but the club can't expect us to tolerate this policy indefinitely. I'm not expecting us to compete financially with the likes of Chelsea and Manchester City but I certainly do expect us to not have given up with Everton and Spurs. If Lerner really isn't interested in anything other than avoiding relegation every season he has to find a buyer and sell up because I for one will never accept this level of ambition from Aston Villa.

Strange as it may seem, Lerner has financially backed us. Over the last 5 years we rank 6th in the net spend table. Everton have a trading net surplus, as do Newcastle. Have a look: http://www.myoldmansaid.com/aston-villa-net-spend-premier-league-equation/

Offline Villain1874

  • Member
  • Posts: 112
Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #1528 on: February 24, 2014, 02:56:42 PM »
Quote from: the mirror

By Simon Bird | 23/02/14 

Paul Lambert insists he is not getting relegation jitters just yet.

Lambert's Aston Villa side are 13th four points above the drop zone after three defeats in four league games and need wins quickly to avoid disaster.

A late defeat at Newcastle on Sunday heightened their air of peril, but Lambert has ordered everyone at the club to stay cool.

He said: "We're playing well, we're just not getting the break. If we were getting beat heavily or don't look like you're going to score, that's when you should be really worried, but I don't have that worry.

"There's a lot of teams well below us, and we went through this last year so we know what it's like.

 

"We don't panic on it, we just try and win the next game. When you go through something it definitely helps you.

"We're definitely a better outfit this time than last year. We didn't deserve to lose that game.

"It's another big game next weekend. We're at home. And it's a game we're going to try and win. The emotions are disappointment and frustration. I don't think we deserved to lose the game."

 

It's got to the point now that I actually don't care what he says anymore...
He is saying one thing and we the fans are seeing the complete opposite...
I don't respect him anymore and he's certainly not worth listening too...

Offline itbrvilla

  • Member
  • Posts: 7402
  • Location: Birmingham
  • GM : 16.02.2022
Re: The Paul Lambert thread
« Reply #1529 on: February 24, 2014, 03:00:27 PM »
I've said it before on another other thread but even if we escape the drop again the club is going to see vastly reduced attendances next season if it continues with it's policy of buying only unproven players. While we may have a reasonable away record we've been consistently watching rubbish at home for a long, long time now. Even under the comparatively successful reign of O'Neill, many home games were turgid but poor performances at Villa Park now are the norm. We've been very patient as a fan base, accepting the financial restraints were necessary after O'Neill's reign but the club can't expect us to tolerate this policy indefinitely. I'm not expecting us to compete financially with the likes of Chelsea and Manchester City but I certainly do expect us to not have given up with Everton and Spurs. If Lerner really isn't interested in anything other than avoiding relegation every season he has to find a buyer and sell up because I for one will never accept this level of ambition from Aston Villa.

Strange as it may seem, Lerner has financially backed us. Over the last 5 years we rank 6th in the net spend table. Everton have a trading net surplus, as do Newcastle. Have a look: http://www.myoldmansaid.com/aston-villa-net-spend-premier-league-equation/
What a fucking mess.  Spend all that and end up with this shit?  McGregor must be spinning in his grave!

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal