The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[myf]

I think there is no doubt that he has lost the dressing room.   If we can see that he has favourites and hate figures it is impossible for the players not to see it.   He freezes out Helenius, he freezes out Albrighton, he has frozen out Hutton, Bent, Given and the rest, yet KEA who in my humble opinion is not even a championship midfield standard player is his first name on the team sheet, ditto Weimann.   If we do get rid of Lambert and I don't think we will, but if we did they would need a double decker bus to shift out the personnel any competent incoming manager would file under 'B' for bomb squad.

Every time I watch KEA, I just think what exactly does he do? He cant beat anyone, not good in the air, no penetrating runs or passes. cant tackle and seems to spend his whole game running around and achieving nothing. Baffling.

Created two of our best chances today though

Lost the dressing room - don't be silly.  Its a bunch of kids and lower division players who are just grateful to be playing.

The club's rotten to the core; Lerner & Faulkner, Lambert, no captain, terrible squad. Negative support.

Do you think Given, Hutton and Bent would make any difference to our position?  They are milking the money us lot pay and couldn't give a shite.

[Dave Clark Five]

The problem starts with our disinterested owner. We need leadership and I am sick of the pitiful excuses that are made for his continued absence and lack of direction. He got away with it when Alex McLeish was here because he was an easy target. There is no hiding place now.

[caster troy]

I wonder what Vlaar means by this tweet and it being unnecessary and not being able to say more now?

@RonVlaar4: I'm sorry for this result, unnecessary, can't say more now....

That he's lost for words? I know how he feels.

[eastie]

The problem starts with our disinterested owner. We need leadership and I am sick of the pitiful excuses that are made for his continued absence and lack of direction. He got away with it when Alex McLeish was here because he was an easy target. There is no hiding place now.

I think lerner escapes a crowd reaction because we all know he's not there - I'm not sure why lambert has escaped the wrath of the fans though as he has been a dreadful manager.

[Steve67]

Will the Villa fans turn on the Manager when we have so many young players in the side? Even if we lose at home to Norwich?  I just can't see it.

[saunders_heroes]

The problem starts with our disinterested owner. We need leadership and I am sick of the pitiful excuses that are made for his continued absence and lack of direction. He got away with it when Alex McLeish was here because he was an easy target. There is no hiding place now.

Oh make no mistake, the buck stops with Lerner. He's the one making the cutbacks and he's the one running the club on the cheap. Until he either sells up or comes to his senses and starts running like a PL club again it's going to be more of the same.

[Fergal]

Just as I now can't defend Lambert I can no longer defend Randy, both need to leave and get someone in who knows how to manage and run a football club.
The PR has worn off, the proud history is still there but the bright future has had it's light turned off.

The trouble with Randy selling is who will he sell to. As frustrated as I am my the fact he seems to have lost interest, we don't want to end up with another Carsen Yeung.

Regarding Lambert, I also wonder about him sometimes. That said, he's hamstrung by the club being run on a budget. And I don't see a queue of eager, qualified replacements crawling on hands and knees up Witton Lane. And if there were I have no faith in Lerner to pick the right one.

Thats the danger, out of the frying pan and into the fire.  I did make the point of wanting him to sell to someone who knows how to run a club...

[danlanza]

36,500 fans at nearly every home game can see the problems.
The fucking manager, Chief Exec and the bloody Chairman cannot.
Take a fucking seat in the Holte you 3, just for one game, then take fucking notes.
Rocket science it aint.

[brian green]

KEA sums it all up for me.   Not just an inadequate player miles below premiership standard but the fact that Lambert sees something in him.

If somebody comes up to you in the street and says he has got a gold watch in his pocket you say show me the watch.   If he won't show you the watch you don't buy it.   Simple.   KEA shows us nothing.  Game after game, week after week, nothing.   But our manager picks him week after week, defeat after defeat but he continues to show nothing.   He can't tackle, he is no good in the air, he is not physically dominant, he cannot play a clever pass, he is slow, he has no rapport with the fans - nothing.   But if Lambert can see something you have to ask the question is Lambert imagining things or simply blindly stubborn and blindly loyal to a player he brought to the club.   KEA is the litmus paper test to the question does Lambert actually know what he is doing?

[eastie]

Will the Villa fans turn on the Manager when we have so many young players in the side? Even if we lose at home to Norwich?  I just can't see it.

I'm not so sure that he has the players totally on his side , quite a few might be happy to see the back of him.

[Fergal]

Seven people don't want him sacked, if you are one of those why?  Not wanting an argument just wondering why?

[danlanza]

Will the Villa fans turn on the Manager when we have so many young players in the side? Even if we lose at home to Norwich?  I just can't see it.

I'm not so sure that he has the players totally on his side , quite a few might be happy to see the back of him.

Ditto eastie. Some would be glad to see him go.

[eastie]

The problem starts with our disinterested owner. We need leadership and I am sick of the pitiful excuses that are made for his continued absence and lack of direction. He got away with it when Alex McLeish was here because he was an easy target. There is no hiding place now.

Oh make no mistake, the buck stops with Lerner. He's the one making the cutbacks and he's the one running the club on the cheap. Until he either sells up or comes to his senses and starts running like a PL club again it's going to be more of the same.

Lambert has built a piss poor squad on the back of £43m spent by him and the players he inherited- the buck for the teams performances stops with him.

As for lerner if he can't make aston villa competitive then he should look to sell to someone who can.

[andyh]

I honestly think its just a case of this job being too big for him.  The media, the fan expectations, the sheer size of the club dwarf anything he would have experienced at Norwich and he is struggling with the weight of it all and that is transcending to the players.  There's just something not right either about the spirit of the dressing room that was very much there last season.

I have been saying the same thing for a long time KV2.
When your 'leader' constantly talks down the expectations for the club then you have question his motives.
Yes, we all know we aren't going to win the league anytime soon.
Yes, we all know that we are paying the price for previous 'extravagances'.
But, do we want it ramming down our throats all the time.
Do we need to know our only intention is to survive.
Do we need to know that FA cup is too much of a demand on our squad

Surely, his job is to talk UP the club, the players and our desire to go onto bigger and better things.

It seems to me that by setting low expectations, he is just increasing his chances of hitting his targets and therefore looking like he's doing a decent job.

Problem is, if your targets are low, and you STILL miss them, you are likely to get well and truly screwed!

[eastie]

He has cut a lot of players adrift, making internationals train with kids, and also clearly has a problem with Lowton - I'm not sure his man management skills are all that good and his motivational skills aren't working - his tactics seem dodgy to say the least so what exactly are his assets?