Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Ron Manager]

When Alex McLeish set up his team to do exactly this everyone was up in arms were they not? Not here but at Birmingham!  They finished ninth that season.

Their fans hated watching Foster,Johnson,Dann etc hoofing it in the direction of Zigic for 90mins and said so.

We are doing exactly that. Paul Lambert doesn't have the intelligence to understand its awful to watch.

You may not like him but can you imagine Harry Redknapp playing this way?.

I didn't think so.

[Clampy]

When Alex McLeish set up his team to do exactly this everyone was up in arms were they not? Not here but at Birmingham!  They finished ninth that season.

Their fans hated watching Foster,Johnson,Dann etc hoofing it in the direction of Zigic for 90mins and said so.

We are doing exactly that. Paul Lambert doesn't have the intelligence to understand its awful to watch.

You may not like him but can you imagine Harry Redknapp playing this way?.

I didn't think so.

But we don't do it every game, that's the point. We were superb against Liverpool in the first half. They couldn't have complained if they'd gone in 3-0 down at half time. That's why yesterday was so bloody frustrating.

[PaulWinch again]

When Alex McLeish set up his team to do exactly this everyone was up in arms were they not? Not here but at Birmingham!  They finished ninth that season.

Their fans hated watching Foster,Johnson,Dann etc hoofing it in the direction of Zigic for 90mins and said so.

We are doing exactly that. Paul Lambert doesn't have the intelligence to understand its awful to watch.

You may not like him but can you imagine Harry Redknapp playing this way?.

I didn't think so.

But we don't do it every game, that's the point. We were superb against Liverpool in the first half. They couldn't have complained if they'd gone in 3-0 down at half time. That's why yesterday was so bloody frustrating.

I agree, but looking at performances over the last 3 months or so I'd say the Liverpool game is a bit of a blip.

[Chris Smith]

I thought it was the sort of performance we often saw from mid table opposition at VP when we were a top 6 side. Everton have a really good home record but we were organised and hard working. We scored a good goal and I thought we'd be good for a point until that free kick. It's not much fun to watch but it is what so many teams try to do that I am surprised it is causing such a fuss.

Got to respectfully disagree Chris. Up at Anfield two weeks ago we closed down and harried their midfield, forcing them into mistakes. Gerrard commented on it himself. We did it once yesterday, which led to our goal. The rest of the game panned out with ten men behind the ball defending our lead. We didn't go to Liverpool with tactics like that, why should yesterday have been any different?

I think the efforts of the mid week derby and the absence of Gabby went a long way to dictating how we set up yesterday. I have no idea if playing differently would have yielded a different outcome but I do know that it is a tactic used by a lot of teams.

[olaftab]

I thought it was the sort of performance we often saw from mid table opposition at VP when we were a top 6 side. Everton have a really good home record but we were organised and hard working. We scored a good goal and I thought we'd be good for a point until that free kick. It's not much fun to watch but it is what so many teams try to do that I am surprised it is causing such a fuss.

Got to respectfully disagree Chris. Up at Anfield two weeks ago we closed down and harried their midfield, forcing them into mistakes. Gerrard commented on it himself. We did it once yesterday, which led to our goal. The rest of the game panned out with ten men behind the ball defending our lead. We didn't go to Liverpool with tactics like that, why should yesterday have been any different?

I think Lambert plays a different game against the very best teams away from home. Against top teams he thinks we are likely to get beaten so play higher up and press them as we did against Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool. Sitting back with their quality will make the inevitable come to be for sure. However against other teams he thinks we can sneak a result by soaking up pressure  and hitting them on the break.  Both tactics have served us well  away from home so far this season however IMO he should play the same way, as against Liverpool, in every away game.

[Rudy65]

I thought it was the sort of performance we often saw from mid table opposition at VP when we were a top 6 side. Everton have a really good home record but we were organised and hard working. We scored a good goal and I thought we'd be good for a point until that free kick. It's not much fun to watch but it is what so many teams try to do that I am surprised it is causing such a fuss.

Take issue with your last sentence. And it isnt just against the top 6 either

Good for a point? Hanging on more like and deservedly getting nothing

[Clampy]

I thought it was the sort of performance we often saw from mid table opposition at VP when we were a top 6 side. Everton have a really good home record but we were organised and hard working. We scored a good goal and I thought we'd be good for a point until that free kick. It's not much fun to watch but it is what so many teams try to do that I am surprised it is causing such a fuss.

Got to respectfully disagree Chris. Up at Anfield two weeks ago we closed down and harried their midfield, forcing them into mistakes. Gerrard commented on it himself. We did it once yesterday, which led to our goal. The rest of the game panned out with ten men behind the ball defending our lead. We didn't go to Liverpool with tactics like that, why should yesterday have been any different?

I think the efforts of the mid week derby and the absence of Gabby went a long way to dictating how we set up yesterday. I have no idea if playing differently would have yielded a different outcome but I do know that it is a tactic used by a lot of teams.

Gabby was a big miss as he always is. Playing Holt wasn't the answer though, that was obvious ten minutes into the game. As for the midweek excesses, Everton were in a local derby as well. I wasn't expecting another four goals, just our midfield to carry on from where they left off in the last away game. Instead we just sat off them and let them pass their way into the penalty area, it was so frustrating to watch.

One thing Liverpool did against them in the week was play Sterling in front of Jon Flanagan which nullified the threat of Baines. It's a shame Lambert didn't think of it because he had so much space to run into in the first half, it was ridiculous.

I like Lambert but tactically on occasions he leaves you tearing your hair out.

[olaftab]

We did looked tired in the last 20 mins or so. May be that was due to Everton having had an extra 24 hours rest as they payed on Tuesday.

Havw to say that is a lame excuse, we hadnt played for 11 days and they had played the shite that is Stevenage

Agree that we have had fair amount of rest since opting out of the FA cup. However we did have a tough game on Wednesday have to come back from 2-0 down whereas they lied down and let Liverpool tickle their belly on Tuesday night.

[Rudy65]

I thought it was the sort of performance we often saw from mid table opposition at VP when we were a top 6 side. Everton have a really good home record but we were organised and hard working. We scored a good goal and I thought we'd be good for a point until that free kick. It's not much fun to watch but it is what so many teams try to do that I am surprised it is causing such a fuss.

Got to respectfully disagree Chris. Up at Anfield two weeks ago we closed down and harried their midfield, forcing them into mistakes. Gerrard commented on it himself. We did it once yesterday, which led to our goal. The rest of the game panned out with ten men behind the ball defending our lead. We didn't go to Liverpool with tactics like that, why should yesterday have been any different?

I think the efforts of the mid week derby and the absence of Gabby went a long way to dictating how we set up yesterday. I have no idea if playing differently would have yielded a different outcome but I do know that it is a tactic used by a lot of teams.

Efforts of midweek. You make out no one else played in the week

Playing holt and Benteke is just plain stupid. I think we will see a lot of this while Gabby isnt around because PL will want to prove a point. Doing this means Weimann isnt in his best position up front.

Holt looks like the player we all thought he was. Rubbish

[Clampy]

I thought it was the sort of performance we often saw from mid table opposition at VP when we were a top 6 side. Everton have a really good home record but we were organised and hard working. We scored a good goal and I thought we'd be good for a point until that free kick. It's not much fun to watch but it is what so many teams try to do that I am surprised it is causing such a fuss.

Got to respectfully disagree Chris. Up at Anfield two weeks ago we closed down and harried their midfield, forcing them into mistakes. Gerrard commented on it himself. We did it once yesterday, which led to our goal. The rest of the game panned out with ten men behind the ball defending our lead. We didn't go to Liverpool with tactics like that, why should yesterday have been any different?

I think the efforts of the mid week derby and the absence of Gabby went a long way to dictating how we set up yesterday. I have no idea if playing differently would have yielded a different outcome but I do know that it is a tactic used by a lot of teams.

Efforts of midweek. You make out no one else played in the week

Playing holt and Benteke is just plain stupid. I think we will see a lot of this while Gabby isnt around because PL will want to prove a point. Doing this means Weimann isnt in his best position up front.

Holt looks like the player we all thought he was. Rubbish

Holt is not rubbish. He's definatley not the player you want in place of Gabby if you're planning to catch teams on the break though.

[kippaxvilla2]

If Lerner wants to sell surely he will find it easier to do, and at the same time get a better price, if the club are doing well?

Like the rest of you I have no insight into his intentions but the idea that if he did it would equate with running us down makes little sense.

Except you'll remember the famous DO'L quote about not changing the curtains if you're about to sell the house.

[PeterWithe]

It was his first start so he needs to be cut a little slack but if Holt is serious about 'ramming it down the throats' of those who think hes not good enough, he'll need to improve an awful lot.

No complaints about his effort but his technique was poor and he looked a fish out of water at that level.

[Chris Smith]

If Lerner wants to sell surely he will find it easier to do, and at the same time get a better price, if the club are doing well?

Like the rest of you I have no insight into his intentions but the idea that if he did it would equate with running us down makes little sense.

Except you'll remember the famous DO'L quote about not changing the curtains if you're about to sell the house.

Except it's not the same as selling a house, is it, where you have something that, for the most part, increased in value without having to do too much. It's selling a business and the vendor will want to make it as an attractive prospect as possible to recoup the investment he has made.

[supertom]

When Alex McLeish set up his team to do exactly this everyone was up in arms were they not? Not here but at Birmingham!  They finished ninth that season.

Their fans hated watching Foster,Johnson,Dann etc hoofing it in the direction of Zigic for 90mins and said so.

We are doing exactly that. Paul Lambert doesn't have the intelligence to understand its awful to watch.

You may not like him but can you imagine Harry Redknapp playing this way?.

I didn't think so.

On the point of Redknapp, QPR fans this season have actually been voicing a fair bit of dissatisfaction about the playing style at the club. They've viewed him as quite negative, and despite having a plethora of attacking midfielders like Phillips, SWP, Kranjcer, Benayoun, and Hoilett, none of whom would look out of place in the Prem (if motivated) still don't play attractive football.
They're 2nd in the table but the fans are moaning about the style. Most of their wins are by the odd goal. Unsurprisingly their best players this season have been their two CH's, Barton, and Austin who nicks them wins at the other end.

Just saying like. Before we go down that dark road of fancying Arry Redknapp at the club. And indeed when he first joined QPR he basically set them up as a team that had 10 men behind the ball and hoofed it long. They were tougher to beat but still not winning the games they needed.

That said, we're within our rights to complain after the dross of all but 3-4 games this season, that we've been served up.

[JUAN PABLO]

Just seen MOTD

Lambert said we were excellent

ffs

someone have a word please , it was anti football awful .

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