Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[SoccerHQ]

Don't panic Mr Mainwaring.

A minimum of 4 pts from next 2 games will give us 31 points with 12 games left.

Then Fulham, Stoke, Norwich, Hull at home. Away at Palace, Swansea, Man Yew

Plenty of chances to get enough wins to keep us safe. Have Faith.

Oh, is that the old 'easier games' mantra?

We've taken 6 points from the last two "easy" league games we've played. Actually given their form since, it was an excellent effort to go to Sunderland, win and keep a clean sheet, not that you'd read that on here of course.

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The manager has nobody but himself to blame for he result wih the poor selection and system deployed. We were the antithesis of our last visit to Liverpool.

[Rudy65]

WM said that Randy last attended VP in December 2012!

Why does that matter?

It matters big time. It shows he gives a flying F

I want an owner who constantly examines his investment and ownership and see how it can improve. Not one who treats us all with contempt and who thinks he can spend the minimum to keep us in the prem. one year anytime soon he will get his sums wrong

I dont want an owner who when Paul Faulkner calls for a few quid says to his PA ' oh fuck not him again, tell him I'm in the shower and I will call him back on the 1st Sept or 1st Feb'

[saunders_heroes]

If Lerner hasn't been to Villa Park for a game in over 12 months then it's pretty obvious he's lost interest isn't it?
What other explanation is there? The man has a private jet for crying out loud!

[onje_villa]

So disappointing after the Liverpool and WBA positivity.

Like so many others have said, it's not the result, it's the performances. We have to get better on the ball.

[The Left Side]

71% of possession to EFC, we can't win without that much of the ball.

[pauliewalnuts]

If Lerner hasn't been to Villa Park for a game in over 12 months then it's pretty obvious he's lost interest isn't it?
What other explanation is there? The man has a private jet for crying out loud!

You've got to wonder how interested he really is under those circumstances.

Maybe it wouldn't be that way if he'd had a history of not turning up, but I remember when they first arrived, they were here a lot. I even remember him going up to Scunthorpe (or was it Doncaster? Anyway, somewhere northern and unappealing) to watch us in a LC game.

[Phil from the upper holte]

This is why I was angry we didn't strengthen in the window, midfield is Shit and inept. Must be because the manager doesn't use them he just hoofs it from the back. We're Aston Fucking Villa not Wimbledon Villa II. He promised attacking attractive football and this is not it! Yes we won Wednesday but we played the same style. Your not going to go to places like Everton and get a result playing this way and it's not Fucking good enough. This is just as much Lerner's fault for making him shop at a level where he has to buy this Shit.

[Legion]

What makes it, in some ways, even worse is that he spends quite a lot of time in the UK. It's not as if he is permanently based in the US.

[robbo1874]

Watched it on TV. I thought we were ok first half and just about deserved the lead. We also started the second half ok and the defending was pretty good for the most part though lucky at times and Everton squandered some chances. Once they started pressing more and we began to tire, you sensed Everton would score a couple though and obviously they did.

We do give the ball away far too easily at times and put ourselves under pressure needlessly. I thought the match against Albion on weds may have had a bearing on it as we looked knackered after about an hour. Everton are a good side though too - I can't rember the stat of how many they have lost- I think it was something like 1 in 32. Whatever it is, they're clearly very solid at Goodison . I don't agree with some of the more hysterical posters that we were shite. We just lost to a better side.

[pauliewalnuts]

This is why I was angry we didn't strengthen in the window, midfield is Shit and inept. Must be because the manager doesn't use them he just hoofs it from the back. We're Aston Fucking Villa not Wimbledon Villa II. He promised attacking attractive football and this is not it! Yes we won Wednesday but we played the same style. Your not going to go to places like Everton and get a result playing this way and it's not Fucking good enough. This is just as much Lerner's fault for making him shop at a level where he has to buy this Shit.

Although I think Kozak is a decent player, if money is the issue, I'd have thought 7m on a striker was an infinitely less sensible way to spend money than on a midfielder.

[saunders_heroes]

If Lerner hasn't been to Villa Park for a game in over 12 months then it's pretty obvious he's lost interest isn't it?
What other explanation is there? The man has a private jet for crying out loud!

You've got to wonder how interested he really is under those circumstances.

Maybe it wouldn't be that way if he'd had a history of not turning up, but I remember when they first arrived, they were here a lot. I even remember him going up to Scunthorpe (or was it Doncaster? Anyway, somewhere northern and unappealing) to watch us in a LC game.

Precisely, what other explanation can there be? Either he's lost interest and/or he's too ashamed or even frightend to show his face because of what's happened to the squad over the last 4 seasons.  At least Doug Ellis turned up to every match and faced the stick from the fans.
The sooner he sells up the better.

[pauliewalnuts]

i don't think he even gets that much stick, to be honest.

The selling up thing, though, he can only sell up if someone is prepared to pay him what he wants for the club. And we only want someone to buy off him if they're going to invest in the club.

It's not like "sack the manager" style arguments. You can't force someone to turn up with the money and desire to buy a football club. Hope for it, yes, but nobody - including Randy - can just make that happen. He's not going to sell for peanuts and walk away from his investment having lost even more money, and why should he?

[Phil from the upper holte]

This is why I was angry we didn't strengthen in the window, midfield is Shit and inept. Must be because the manager doesn't use them he just hoofs it from the back. We're Aston Fucking Villa not Wimbledon Villa II. He promised attacking attractive football and this is not it! Yes we won Wednesday but we played the same style. Your not going to go to places like Everton and get a result playing this way and it's not Fucking good enough. This is just as much Lerner's fault for making him shop at a level where he has to buy this Shit.

Although I think Kozak is a decent player, if money is the issue, I'd have thought 7m on a striker was an infinitely less sensible way to spend money than on a midfielder.

This is true and it's been said on here many times that a striker was not the priority at that time. It has to be a money issue I can see no other explanation, unless it's a wages issue

[Phil from the upper holte]

He has said before about constraints hasn't he, he also said we couldn't compete with the Albion