Liverpool v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[barrysleftfoot]

 
 Unfortunately i can see why it was given, not sure that Guzan should have been coming out like that.Suarez was always going to go down, don't give him the opportunity, it wasn't a foul but it looked to the referee as if it was, and as UKTS says, if that would have been Gabby.

 I hope Stan calls in the police, always a good listen Stan, doesn't sit on the fence.

 Just a side note, does Suarez ever play well against us?has he scored against us?Although incredibly dislikeable, he is a great player, but i don't recall him ever playing well against us.

[Somniloquism]

Well he has now "won" two penalties against us which ultimately gained them 3 extra points then they would have gotten without him. But maybe not as much an effect as he has against Norwich.

Anyway, I can't blame Guzan too much. If he had stayed on his line or only came out so far, Suarez could have still scored/ squared back. The only way to force him to take it wide was to come out as he did and hope the ref saw it correctly.

[SashasGrandad]

I thought it was a penalty live and although, (having seen the replies) I thought the little bastard won the penalty, I can't blame the ref for giving it. I just hope Guzan learns from that because once Suarez had taken that touch, the angle was too much to do anything from.

That was my view as well, I think he 'won' it but I thought it probably was just about a penalty. In any case I'm far happier that we played really well.

Agreed if it was the other way round and there keeper had done that with gabby and it not been given we would all be fuming

Yanited didn't get a pen when Young was taken out far worse a few weeks ago and didn't get a pen (possibly due to Young's reputation) so why not in this case?  What would Howard Webb have given yesterday?

[PeterWithe]

The novelist Thomas Harris describes these people as growing 'like toadstools on the damp floor of the Internet'. It is a strange and unpleasant side-effect of the rise of social media.

I'd add 'in a darkened room' to that metaphor, because they do so only because they have anonymity and spacial distance which makes them feel safe from reprisal.

There were a couple prosecuted recently for abusing a lady not the internet, the reason for which escapes me. The memorable thing was  the pictures of them both, overweight pasty anoraks.

[rob_bridge]

There are some staggeringly thick people in this world.

It never ceases to amaze me that people in 21st Century could spout such bile based on race, gender, sexual Orientation etc...

[Joshua Fineman]

Apologies if I've missed it, but any news on Gabby?

[D.boy]

I spoke to 2 Liverpool supporting colleagues this morning and they said "we were very lucky and what Suarez did was naughty"

[eastie]

Apologies if I've missed it, but any news on Gabby?

@MatKendrick: Agbonla-sore: Gabby Agbonlahor is a fitness doubt for the Villa-Albion derby after sustaining a foot injury #avfc http://t.co/keqz8NNiZF

[Nev]

There are some staggeringly thick people in this world.

It never ceases to amaze me that people in 21st Century could spout such bile based on race, gender, sexual Orientation etc...

Although it's no excuse whatsoever, Liverpool's seige mentality under KKKenny regarding Bernie Winters antics continues to have an influence on the terminally stupid.

The strides made within stadiums regarding this kind of abuse now needs to be followed up online.

[pauliewalnuts]

Fair play to Collymore for retweeting some of these absolute fucking morons.

Anyone who follows (the parody account) Moyes_Must_Go on Twitter will have noticed the depressing frequency with which people turn to racism. How is it possible for some of these fucking retards to think that because it's Twitter, that makes it OK?

Don't they watch the news?

[onje_villa]

Night and day that was compared to our recent performances. Westwood and El Ahmadi were energised. Westwood has looked so pedestrian of late. A shame we couldn't keep it up but it does show we do have players when we get it right. I do hope we can build on it and that Lambert still prioritises getting in a creative midfielder.

Have to say I find some of the defensive stuff on here pretty embarrassing. If Gabby had won that penalty, nothing would have been said. I'm not saying Suarez didn't milk it but Guzan's positioning in recent times hasn't been brilliant. Shot-stopping yes but often recently he's been found half-way between the striker and the goal and he's paid the price.

I'm quite shocked by some of the vitriol on here frankly, the decision was a bit soft but I saw plenty of fouls on Sturridge that weren't given in the first half. Let's turn it down a bit eh?

[dave.woodhall]

We were robbed of our best result for years because of a cheating bastard and his friends in the media have closed ranks behind him. Let's not turn it down.

[onje_villa]

We were robbed of our best result for years because of a cheating bastard and his friends in the media have closed ranks behind him. Let's not turn it down.

Ha!

[Legion]

Turn it up. A lot.

[ktvillan]

I thought it was a penalty live and although, (having seen the replies) I thought the little bastard won the penalty, I can't blame the ref for giving it. I just hope Guzan learns from that because once Suarez had taken that touch, the angle was too much to do anything from.

That was my view as well, I think he 'won' it but I thought it probably was just about a penalty. In any case I'm far happier that we played really well.

Agreed if it was the other way round and there keeper had done that with gabby and it not been given we would all be fuming

Speak for yourself  - we wouldn't "all" be fuming, because not all of us condone cheating, even from our own. Strangely I don't get upset when one of our players isn't touched, dives and doesn't get the decision - e.g. Young - and if they get booked I think "serves them right".   

And Onje_Villa you are completely missing the point - Guzan's positioning is irrelevant, the bald fact is that it quite simply wasn't a foul because Suarez was not touched or impeded in any way to warrant going down.  Everything else, all this "but he shouldn't have rushed out" "he shouldn't have given him the opportunity to dive" "you can see why the ref gave it", "he shouldn't have looked at him in a funny way", " he shouldn't have called him goofy",  is just so much irrelevant hot air which is typical of modern football fans and pundits who fall for all the bullshit surrounding the hyped up modern game.  Why not let's just call it what it was, as Collymore is doing, cheating by Suarez and incompetence by the ref.