Quote from: Legion on January 18, 2014, 08:54:25 PMQuote from: Smirker on January 18, 2014, 08:50:50 PMQuote from: brian green on January 18, 2014, 08:47:38 PMYeah that Guzan is a stupid match loser. Get rid.Not what I said (or think), but OK.I don't think Mr. Green is being entirely serious here.Obviously he's responding to the stuff I've posted by taking the piss.Saying I think players should be vigilant around twats like Suarez does not mean Guzan is a game loser.
Quote from: Smirker on January 18, 2014, 08:50:50 PMQuote from: brian green on January 18, 2014, 08:47:38 PMYeah that Guzan is a stupid match loser. Get rid.Not what I said (or think), but OK.I don't think Mr. Green is being entirely serious here.
Quote from: brian green on January 18, 2014, 08:47:38 PMYeah that Guzan is a stupid match loser. Get rid.Not what I said (or think), but OK.
Yeah that Guzan is a stupid match loser. Get rid.
Exactly. Chill a little.
Quote from: Legion on January 18, 2014, 08:54:25 PMQuote from: Smirker on January 18, 2014, 08:50:50 PMQuote from: brian green on January 18, 2014, 08:47:38 PMYeah that Guzan is a stupid match loser. Get rid.Not what I said (or think), but OK.I don't think Mr. Green is being entirely serious here.You think I was? As I said, people are uncapable of acknowledging the shades of grey and seeing it as black and white. Obviously he's responding to the stuff I've posted by taking the piss.Saying I think players should be vigilant around twats like Suarez does not mean Guzan is a game loser. I just want my team to win.
I don't think you do for a minute.
Suarez didnt dive it was a penalty. Guzan had no need to bring him down.We could have been 4 goals up after 25mins with some luck and 5 goals up after 36mins. Didnt collapse in the second half. Performance of the season. Sylla played well when he arrived. Vlaar got Man of the Match and he deserved it. Benteke back to his best.
Its been mentioned before, but today I think we have to give some credit to KEA. He looked a lot better on the ball than he normally does, and he pretty much marked Gerrard out of the game at times.Away from home especially, his pressing/harrying of the opposition is very good. And he can finish, given the chance.Still not brilliant, but used correctly, he can be an asset to the team.
Quote from: ktvillan on January 18, 2014, 08:50:30 PMQuote from: SashasGrandad on January 18, 2014, 08:26:54 PMQuote from: ktvillan on January 18, 2014, 08:19:32 PMI'm struggling to understand why people are saying you can;t blame the ref for the pen. First off he was directly behind the incident, and the view from the camera at the far end - similar to his view but further away - clearly showed there was little or no contact and certainly not enough to warrant a swan dive. Second, unless he's been living on a distant planet for the last two or three years, the ref would know, like everyone else does, that Suarez is a cheating diving c**t. Thus any going to ground by that clown should be treated with the utmost suspicion and scepticism, unless you are 1500% certain he was fouled. But as usual with the SKy pet teams the refs are all too ready to give anything when they go to ground against one of the "making up the numbers" brigade. If you have ever been a referee you will know the ref could not be blamed. Without video evidence he gave the decision. You can't think Suarez is a diving cheat - you have to judge what you see. The fact that he took no further action against Guzan means there was some doubt in his mind. If he had not given the pen and there had been contact he would had been crucified and sent to league 1.Some refs are up themselves - I don't think this one today was. Had it been one of the prima donna refs we would have lost today. If you want me to name names I will.1. First, how do you know I've never reffed? 2. If there was some doubt he should not have given a game changing decision. 3. If he had got it wrong by not giving it it's no different to getting it wrong by giving it. Wrong is wrong whatever the decision. I don't see how you can differentiate and say one is acceptable and one deserves demotion, that's nonsensical.4. He didn't give what he saw. He couldn't have done because he gave a foul when there was clearly no foul, as countless replays have proven. He gave what he thought he saw, or he gave what he wanted to see and he did so because Suarez is a convincing cheat and/or Liverpool are on of the elite. A professional referee should have taken Suarez's nature into account, but that probably didn't suit his (or the premier league's) agenda.5. The fact he took no further action against Guzan is, to me, the ref's admission that he gave a very dodgy decision. It was certainly not a red since a goalscoring opportunity was not on the cards as Suarez had knocked it wide away from the goal and out of play. But almost any ref would have given a yellow in that situation if they genuinely believed enough contact had been made to make the player go down. No. 3 it may seem non-sensical but that is how refs are judged. To keep your place on the premier list you have to try and not appear to make mistakes. A very difficult task. 95% of a ref's decisions are straight-forward. The 5% or less when you can't see exactly what happens you have to gamble. Giving a penalty in this case was the safer option. The ref will be excused as it was a difficult call.
Quote from: SashasGrandad on January 18, 2014, 08:26:54 PMQuote from: ktvillan on January 18, 2014, 08:19:32 PMI'm struggling to understand why people are saying you can;t blame the ref for the pen. First off he was directly behind the incident, and the view from the camera at the far end - similar to his view but further away - clearly showed there was little or no contact and certainly not enough to warrant a swan dive. Second, unless he's been living on a distant planet for the last two or three years, the ref would know, like everyone else does, that Suarez is a cheating diving c**t. Thus any going to ground by that clown should be treated with the utmost suspicion and scepticism, unless you are 1500% certain he was fouled. But as usual with the SKy pet teams the refs are all too ready to give anything when they go to ground against one of the "making up the numbers" brigade. If you have ever been a referee you will know the ref could not be blamed. Without video evidence he gave the decision. You can't think Suarez is a diving cheat - you have to judge what you see. The fact that he took no further action against Guzan means there was some doubt in his mind. If he had not given the pen and there had been contact he would had been crucified and sent to league 1.Some refs are up themselves - I don't think this one today was. Had it been one of the prima donna refs we would have lost today. If you want me to name names I will.1. First, how do you know I've never reffed? 2. If there was some doubt he should not have given a game changing decision. 3. If he had got it wrong by not giving it it's no different to getting it wrong by giving it. Wrong is wrong whatever the decision. I don't see how you can differentiate and say one is acceptable and one deserves demotion, that's nonsensical.4. He didn't give what he saw. He couldn't have done because he gave a foul when there was clearly no foul, as countless replays have proven. He gave what he thought he saw, or he gave what he wanted to see and he did so because Suarez is a convincing cheat and/or Liverpool are on of the elite. A professional referee should have taken Suarez's nature into account, but that probably didn't suit his (or the premier league's) agenda.5. The fact he took no further action against Guzan is, to me, the ref's admission that he gave a very dodgy decision. It was certainly not a red since a goalscoring opportunity was not on the cards as Suarez had knocked it wide away from the goal and out of play. But almost any ref would have given a yellow in that situation if they genuinely believed enough contact had been made to make the player go down.
Quote from: ktvillan on January 18, 2014, 08:19:32 PMI'm struggling to understand why people are saying you can;t blame the ref for the pen. First off he was directly behind the incident, and the view from the camera at the far end - similar to his view but further away - clearly showed there was little or no contact and certainly not enough to warrant a swan dive. Second, unless he's been living on a distant planet for the last two or three years, the ref would know, like everyone else does, that Suarez is a cheating diving c**t. Thus any going to ground by that clown should be treated with the utmost suspicion and scepticism, unless you are 1500% certain he was fouled. But as usual with the SKy pet teams the refs are all too ready to give anything when they go to ground against one of the "making up the numbers" brigade. If you have ever been a referee you will know the ref could not be blamed. Without video evidence he gave the decision. You can't think Suarez is a diving cheat - you have to judge what you see. The fact that he took no further action against Guzan means there was some doubt in his mind. If he had not given the pen and there had been contact he would had been crucified and sent to league 1.Some refs are up themselves - I don't think this one today was. Had it been one of the prima donna refs we would have lost today. If you want me to name names I will.
I'm struggling to understand why people are saying you can;t blame the ref for the pen. First off he was directly behind the incident, and the view from the camera at the far end - similar to his view but further away - clearly showed there was little or no contact and certainly not enough to warrant a swan dive. Second, unless he's been living on a distant planet for the last two or three years, the ref would know, like everyone else does, that Suarez is a cheating diving c**t. Thus any going to ground by that clown should be treated with the utmost suspicion and scepticism, unless you are 1500% certain he was fouled. But as usual with the SKy pet teams the refs are all too ready to give anything when they go to ground against one of the "making up the numbers" brigade.
Quote from: Legion on January 18, 2014, 07:36:43 PMQuote from: Ron Manager on January 18, 2014, 07:34:52 PMSuarez didnt dive it was a penalty. Guzan had no need to bring him down.We could have been 4 goals up after 25mins with some luck and 5 goals up after 36mins. Didnt collapse in the second half. Performance of the season. Sylla played well when he arrived. Vlaar got Man of the Match and he deserved it. Benteke back to his best.It was a blatant diveIn your opinion.
Quote from: Ron Manager on January 18, 2014, 07:34:52 PMSuarez didnt dive it was a penalty. Guzan had no need to bring him down.We could have been 4 goals up after 25mins with some luck and 5 goals up after 36mins. Didnt collapse in the second half. Performance of the season. Sylla played well when he arrived. Vlaar got Man of the Match and he deserved it. Benteke back to his best.It was a blatant dive
Quote from: dekko on January 18, 2014, 09:04:53 PMIts been mentioned before, but today I think we have to give some credit to KEA. He looked a lot better on the ball than he normally does, and he pretty much marked Gerrard out of the game at times.Away from home especially, his pressing/harrying of the opposition is very good. And he can finish, given the chance.Still not brilliant, but used correctly, he can be an asset to the team.think we watched a different game, dekko. He closed down and harried high up the pitch, which was good, but he was slow and gave the ball away so often it negated his good work. Delph was fantastic, as was Gabby. Another two assists for the footballing scarecrow. Back four looked good and played well
Any news on Gabby? If not do you think it was just a precaution or will he be looking at some time out?
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