Grant Holt - confirmed on loan

[pauliewalnuts]

Defoe doesn't work as an example in any case - he started at West Ham, in the second division and came up with them, scored plenty of goals in the top flight, and then moved to Spurs.

I don't even think Holt does, either, he moved up through the leagues with Norwich, rather than being signed from a lower league club by a top flight one.

[saunders_heroes]

I was just trying to think of lower league strikers who turned out to be top class PL players. I couldn't think of many from recent years. I wasn't gonna use it as a stick to beat Holt with. Christ!

That would need to be one fucking big stick.

I haven't even seen a recent picture of Holt, is he really that big?

[pauliewalnuts]

I was just trying to think of lower league strikers who turned out to be top class PL players. I couldn't think of many from recent years. I wasn't gonna use it as a stick to beat Holt with. Christ!

Much as I don't think much of the signing, I also don't think there's any doubt Holt can do it in the top flight. He's actually done it already and proved that.

[pauliewalnuts]

I was just trying to think of lower league strikers who turned out to be top class PL players. I couldn't think of many from recent years. I wasn't gonna use it as a stick to beat Holt with. Christ!

That would need to be one fucking big stick.

I haven't even seen a recent picture of Holt, is he really that big?

He can't weigh more than Richard Dunne. Am pretty sure I read something the season before last to the effect that Dunne was the heaviest player in the Premier League. Not that that equates to being fat, obviously.

Mind you, then again, he did look a sizeable lad.

[saunders_heroes]

Defoe doesn't work as an example in any case - he started at West Ham, in the second division and came up with them, scored plenty of goals in the top flight, and then moved to Spurs.

I don't even think Holt does, either, he moved up through the leagues with Norwich, rather than being signed from a lower league club by a top flight one.

I'm sure Defoe handed in a transfer request the day West Ham were relegated. I remember it went down really well with the West Ham fans.

[pauliewalnuts]

Defoe doesn't work as an example in any case - he started at West Ham, in the second division and came up with them, scored plenty of goals in the top flight, and then moved to Spurs.

I don't even think Holt does, either, he moved up through the leagues with Norwich, rather than being signed from a lower league club by a top flight one.

I'm sure Defoe handed in a transfer request the day West Ham were relegated. I remember it went down really well with the West Ham fans.

Yep, I remember that, too. But am pretty sure when he started there, they were in one of their seasons "off", ie in the second division. Actually, no, they weren't, they were top flight.

There's something I don't like about Defoe, but I am not sure what it is. I do think he's getting some unfair stick about taking the mad money from Toronto and risking his WC place, though. Would he actually have got to play in the WC? For three, maybe four games? Versus 90k a week or whatever insane sum it is for 3 or 4 years. Anyone would be tempted.

[ozzjim]

I was just trying to think of lower league strikers who turned out to be top class PL players. I couldn't think of many from recent years. I wasn't gonna use it as a stick to beat Holt with. Christ!

That would need to be one fucking big stick.

I haven't even seen a recent picture of Holt, is he really that big?

He looks like John Gregory would be having a number of words, and Holt would not be taking his shirt off to reveal a Ginola style figure!

Anyhow the one thing in his favour is he has never relied on pace, and does know where the net is in the premier league. 17 was it for Norwich under Lambert less than 2 years ago. There is a player in there, somewhere.

[ozzjim]

Defoe doesn't work as an example in any case - he started at West Ham, in the second division and came up with them, scored plenty of goals in the top flight, and then moved to Spurs.

I don't even think Holt does, either, he moved up through the leagues with Norwich, rather than being signed from a lower league club by a top flight one.

I'm sure Defoe handed in a transfer request the day West Ham were relegated. I remember it went down really well with the West Ham fans.

Yep, I remember that, too. But am pretty sure when he started there, they were in one of their seasons "off", ie in the second division.

There's something I don't like about Defoe, but I am not sure what it is. I do think he's getting some unfair stick about taking the mad money from Toronto and risking his WC place, though. Would he actually have got to play in the WC? For three, maybe four games? Versus 90k a week or whatever insane sum it is for 3 or 4 years. Anyone would be tempted.

I don't like him at all. In fact, I really don't like him. Selfish, annoying. Grrr.

But no one would turn down the deal he has been offered by Toronto at his point in his career. It is phenomenal.

[saunders_heroes]

Defoe doesn't work as an example in any case - he started at West Ham, in the second division and came up with them, scored plenty of goals in the top flight, and then moved to Spurs.

I don't even think Holt does, either, he moved up through the leagues with Norwich, rather than being signed from a lower league club by a top flight one.

I'm sure Defoe handed in a transfer request the day West Ham were relegated. I remember it went down really well with the West Ham fans.

Yep, I remember that, too. But am pretty sure when he started there, they were in one of their seasons "off", ie in the second division.

There's something I don't like about Defoe, but I am not sure what it is. I do think he's getting some unfair stick about taking the mad money from Toronto and risking his WC place, though. Would he actually have got to play in the WC? For three, maybe four games? Versus 90k a week or whatever insane sum it is for 3 or 4 years. Anyone would be tempted.

I don't for one minute blame him for going there, he'd be made for life.
I always fancied seeing him in a Villa shirt, but he's one of those wide boy cockney lads who couldn't live anywhere in England unless it was close to the bright lights of the south east and London.
Ahh well.

[pauliewalnuts]

He's a good player, there's no getting away from that. He is without doubt already made for life, but even so, three or four chances to play at the World Cup versus 20 million plus to go and live in Toronto? Totally understandable. One of those decisions it is easy to criticise but no doubt much harder to make when it's your life and a real decision.

[Louzie0]

But I like him, international opportunities notwithstanding.

[TonyD]

He is a proper man.

Good luck Grant  and please score some goals.   

Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lamb_Stockmix]

I was just trying to think of lower league strikers who turned out to be top class PL players. I couldn't think of many from recent years. I wasn't gonna use it as a stick to beat Holt with. Christ!

That would need to be one fucking big stick.

I haven't even seen a recent picture of Holt, is he really that big?

He looks like John Gregory would be having a number of words, and Holt would not be taking his shirt off to reveal a Ginola style figure!

Anyhow the one thing in his favour is he has never relied on pace, and does know where the net is in the premier league. 17 was it for Norwich under Lambert less than 2 years ago. There is a player in there, somewhere.

I think there's a couple.

[tomd2103]

Defoe doesn't work as an example in any case - he started at West Ham, in the second division and came up with them, scored plenty of goals in the top flight, and then moved to Spurs.

I don't even think Holt does, either, he moved up through the leagues with Norwich, rather than being signed from a lower league club by a top flight one.

I'm sure Defoe handed in a transfer request the day West Ham were relegated. I remember it went down really well with the West Ham fans.

Yep, I remember that, too. But am pretty sure when he started there, they were in one of their seasons "off", ie in the second division. Actually, no, they weren't, they were top flight.

There's something I don't like about Defoe, but I am not sure what it is. I do think he's getting some unfair stick about taking the mad money from Toronto and risking his WC place, though. Would he actually have got to play in the WC? For three, maybe four games? Versus 90k a week or whatever insane sum it is for 3 or 4 years. Anyone would be tempted.

Doubtful.  Shouldn't really be in the squad as he hadn't been a regular at Spurs for quite some time now.  In fact, was he ever a regular at Spurs?  Didn't he play for Portsmouth at some point?

[dave.woodhall]

I was just trying to think of lower league strikers who turned out to be top class PL players. I couldn't think of many from recent years. I wasn't gonna use it as a stick to beat Holt with. Christ!

That would need to be one fucking big stick.

I haven't even seen a recent picture of Holt, is he really that big?

He looks like John Gregory would be having a number of words, and Holt would not be taking his shirt off to reveal a Ginola style figure!

Anyhow the one thing in his favour is he has never relied on pace, and does know where the net is in the premier league. 17 was it for Norwich under Lambert less than 2 years ago. There is a player in there, somewhere.

I think there's a couple.

That was original. Did you write it yourself?