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Author Topic: Grant Holt - confirmed on loan  (Read 151148 times)

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Grant Holt
« Reply #330 on: January 14, 2014, 11:24:33 AM »
Where's Dave Whelan to block the move when you need him?

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Re: Grant Holt
« Reply #331 on: January 14, 2014, 11:27:32 AM »
I know this is bad but I hope he fails the medical.

I hope he come in and scores ten goals.

Me too.

I think this thread is verging on hysteria. This player is a loan signing as cover. As far as I am aware, this is not part of a grand five year plan, just an option should we suffer from injuries. I think its time to calm down and not start looking (or wishing) that we fail.

Oh, you're back, are you? Like a dog to its sick *Pauline Calf face*

Well where would we be if we all didn't lick a little vomit off the pavement every now and again?

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Re: Grant Holt
« Reply #332 on: January 14, 2014, 11:27:52 AM »
Uwe Rosler's confirmed the move.

He's coming as well is he?

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Re: Grant Holt
« Reply #333 on: January 14, 2014, 11:29:16 AM »
it may not be 'part of the grand plan' but surely there is a better striker to sign long term than that clown, 2 goals for Wigan this season, unreal

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Re: Grant Holt
« Reply #334 on: January 14, 2014, 11:29:17 AM »
Not read the thread, but I can possibly imagine what the majority of the comments are like.

As I see it, it's not a great move, he's not a great player and it's pretty much impossible to get excited over this.  However, at least there's logic behind it with Kozak's injury and it being a short term deal for cover purposes.  It's the sort of sensible move that plugs a hole and allows us to make bigger and more exciting moves with the majority of our available funds.   

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Re: Grant Holt
« Reply #335 on: January 14, 2014, 11:29:44 AM »
Uwe Rosler's confirmed the move.

He's coming as well is he?

Based on this farce, i wouldn't rule it out.

Offline richardhubbard

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Re: Grant Holt
« Reply #336 on: January 14, 2014, 11:31:42 AM »
I am not really that arsed about us signing Holt but 22 pages of not wanting him come on!

Funny thing is in last 2 seasons his scoring record far better than Gabbys.

22 goals in top flight for a " fat man" in 2011-13 in 70 games, gabby in 2010-13 in 87 games got 17 goals.

So one who adore scoring record of 1 in 5 , and a guy who we dont want has scoring record of 1 in 3 ?

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Re: Grant Holt
« Reply #337 on: January 14, 2014, 11:31:43 AM »
Go back 5 years ago and we signed heskey.

Now I remember plenty said he was a decent signing then, he wasn't. Not the worst striker I've ever seen but the dynamics were wrong, length of contract, age, style of play, we were in the top 4 when he came, we weren't when the season finished. I get the same feeling with Holt even if it's a different deal.

Not every signing works out as we've seen with some of our bargain basement buys despite the optimism when deals are completed. My issue with this is the boring lack of imagination (in fairness not something I'd usually have a go at lambert regarding transfers) especially when we need major surgery in probably every other area bar keeper and upfront.

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Re: Grant Holt
« Reply #338 on: January 14, 2014, 11:32:06 AM »
Not read the thread, but I can possibly imagine what the majority of the comments are like.

As I see it, it's not a great move, he's not a great player and it's pretty much impossible to get excited over this.  However, at least there's logic behind it with Kozak's injury and it being a short term deal for cover purposes.  It's the sort of sensible move that plugs a hole and allows us to make bigger and more exciting moves with the majority of our available funds.   

If, as has been reported, he's on £28k a week at Wigan it makes no sense on a playing or financial level, that's a hell of a wage for us to cover these days.

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Re: Grant Holt
« Reply #339 on: January 14, 2014, 11:34:18 AM »
Go back 5 years ago and we signed heskey.

Now I remember plenty said he was a decent signing then, he wasn't. Not the worst striker I've ever seen but the dynamics were wrong, length of contract, age, style of play, we were in the top 4 when he came, we weren't when the season finished. I get the same feeling with Holt even if it's a different deal.

Not every signing works out as we've seen with some of our bargain basement buys despite the optimism when deals are completed. My issue with this is the boring lack of imagination (in fairness not something I'd usually have a go at lambert regarding transfers) especially when we need major surgery in probably every other area bar keeper and upfront.

Heskey was signed on a long term deal and was our highest paid player. This is merely cover for Kozak.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Grant Holt
« Reply #340 on: January 14, 2014, 11:35:19 AM »
I am not really that arsed about us signing Holt but 22 pages of not wanting him come on!

Funny thing is in last 2 seasons his scoring record far better than Gabbys.

22 goals in top flight for a " fat man" in 2011-13 in 70 games, gabby in 2010-13 in 87 games got 17 goals.

So one who adore scoring record of 1 in 5 , and a guy who we dont want has scoring record of 1 in 3 ?

Holt looked finished at prem level last season, he scored 5 and 1 of those was a penalty against us.

Gabby's record isn't amazing but he does play out wide, dosen't take penalties and is crucial to our decent away form.

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Re: Grant Holt
« Reply #341 on: January 14, 2014, 11:36:47 AM »
Not read the thread, but I can possibly imagine what the majority of the comments are like.

As I see it, it's not a great move, he's not a great player and it's pretty much impossible to get excited over this.  However, at least there's logic behind it with Kozak's injury and it being a short term deal for cover purposes.  It's the sort of sensible move that plugs a hole and allows us to make bigger and more exciting moves with the majority of our available funds.   

If, as has been reported, he's on £28k a week at Wigan it makes no sense on a playing or financial level, that's a hell of a wage for us to cover these days.

£28k isn't massive in the larger scheme of things.

I see this as somewhat similar to MON bringing in Sutton short term.  As in no real long term harm done even if it doesn't add much to the team.

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Re: Grant Holt
« Reply #342 on: January 14, 2014, 11:37:25 AM »
The only consolation is that he's a defender's nightmare to play against.  If he is fit (and he had better be), he'll be worth having to come off the bench and pull defenders about, creating space for Gabby, Benteke etc.

All I hope is that this isn't our only signing in the window, otherwise we are in deep shit given the limited options we have at the back and midfield.

In Lambert we trust...

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Re: Grant Holt
« Reply #343 on: January 14, 2014, 11:40:50 AM »
Agree on that, the fat mug is pretty good at backing into defenders and fouling them until the ref looks and he suddenly collapses to win a free kick.

I was constantly abusing him at VP in the 3-2 two seasons ago, he was very good at winning free kicks that day, think Pilkington scored from one.

He is pretty cunning which we lack as a team.

Offline supertom

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Re: Grant Holt
« Reply #344 on: January 14, 2014, 11:46:24 AM »
Agree on that, the fat mug is pretty good at backing into defenders and fouling them until the ref looks and he suddenly collapses to win a free kick.

I was constantly abusing him at VP in the 3-2 two seasons ago, he was very good at winning free kicks that day, think Pilkington scored from one.

He is pretty cunning which we lack as a team.
I'm not sure refs this season will do him many favours. They're getting quite niggly now, almost reffing the European way. I think he'll give away a hell of a lot more freekicks than he wins. The days of players like Shearer and Kevin Davies playing right on the edge of the law like that and winding up defenders, seem to be fading. The Holt style CF is a bit of a relic at this level, even before we consider that the player himself is passed his best too. But all that backing into defenders stuff is a lot less effective as it was, even just a couple of years ago.

It's just a very strange signing indeed. Especially as we've got so many problems to rectify in midfield. Sort that out and the strikers we do have will suddenly find life a lot easier.

 


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