Paul Faulkner interview.

[Toronto Villa]

After listening I couldnt help think that Faulkner is like a clone of Doug! Even down to talking up his role at the FA, like we give a F'!

Not quite, Doug would've sacked Lambert long ago especially after the Bradford debacle 12 months ago....

Yes and hired Billy McNeill or Graham Turner or Venglos. He had a flawless managerial appointment record did Doug

Maybe, but even Doug wouldn't have appointed Alex McLeish! - that's when I realised Lerner and Faulkner are complete buffoons!"

HE HIRED GRAHAM TURNER

Smashes head against monitor.

Yes McLeish was a disaster but I just told you Doug Ellis hired a lower league manager to take over a club that had only a couple of years stood conquerors of europe. Do you not see a problem in that?

[Villafirst]

To be fair Doug did bring usSir Graham, BFR, Brian Little and JG.
Also sacked BFR when he was still popular, even though i was not happy with the sacking i would say Doug was right.
I don't think Doug would have gone for AMC either.

Also, Villa had a couple of serious tilts at the League title in 89-90 & 92-93 plus two league cup wins in 94 & 96. What chance of that under Lerner's regime?? Indeed, how many trophies in the last 8 years? Lerner is content with 10th or 11th place.

[Toronto Villa]

To be fair Doug did bring usSir Graham, BFR, Brian Little and JG.
Also sacked BFR when he was still popular, even though i was not happy with the sacking i would say Doug was right.
I don't think Doug would have gone for AMC either.

Also, Villa had a couple of serious tilts at the League title in 89-90 & 92-93 plus two league cup wins in 94 & 96. What chance of that under Lerner's regime?? Indeed, how many trophies in the last 8 years? Lerner is content with 10th or 11th place.

Is it the chairman's fault that his club over two legs shit the bed against Bradford? Is it his fault that we didn't win the League Cup under MON, or advanced to the FA Cup final?

[rob_bridge]

After listening I couldnt help think that Faulkner is like a clone of Doug! Even down to talking up his role at the FA, like we give a F'!

Not quite, Doug would've sacked Lambert long ago especially after the Bradford debacle 12 months ago....

Yes and hired Billy McNeill or Graham Turner or Venglos. He had a flawless managerial appointment record did Doug

And he would never have ever contemplated hiring TSM.

He had many faults and they have been well documented on this site but he knew more about football than Faulkner ever will.

you must have missed the bit where he hired Graham Turner from Shrewsbury to manage a First Division football club that two years prior were champions of europe.

Not at all Toronto.

Did you miss my 'He had many faults.' ?

I went to lots of games under Turner. He had been Shrewsbury's best manager, was considered to be a bright, young and up and coming manager.

It turned out to be a much, much too big a job for him. Like it has been for all of Lerner / Faulkner appointments thus far.

Like many, I'm still hoping to be proved wrong with Lambert as it would mean a) we will have improved at least to a moderate extent b) it means Faulkner doesn't have to make (or is not involved in) another managerial apppintment anytime soon.

More pertiently does anyone know who at the club agreed £2m+ wages for Jermaine Jenas for a year without any rebate in the instance of injury?

[dekko]

If I was offered a choice between our absent no mark of an owner and Vincent Tan I think I would probably choose the latter. Granted Tan is making bad decisions but you dont make an omlette without breaking eggs. He is there every week, living through it with the fans proudly wearing his clubs shirt. He cares a great deal and is successful in other walks of life - Eventually he may get it right and push Cardiff on to the next level. For a start, how did he manage to convince solksjaer to go to Cardiff or Martinez to Everton when tinky-winky and la-laa could not convince them to take over the sleeping giant that is AVFC.

Someone should ask PF why Randy could not be arsed coming back over here when the future king of england came visiting recently. I have no faith in either of them

Not sure if this is a joke post or not but just in case it isnt I direct your attention here:



I also enjoyed the poster who agreed that we would be better off with Tan because Lerner and Faulkner are not 'football men'

[rob_bridge]

Well, he will be popular amongst the other bigwigs in the league. After all, our hospitality is second to none. Nobody leaves Villa Park empty handed.

Including the visiting teams, 3 points every time

Or entry into the enxt round of the Cup competition.

[Toronto Villa]

After listening I couldnt help think that Faulkner is like a clone of Doug! Even down to talking up his role at the FA, like we give a F'!

Not quite, Doug would've sacked Lambert long ago especially after the Bradford debacle 12 months ago....

Yes and hired Billy McNeill or Graham Turner or Venglos. He had a flawless managerial appointment record did Doug

And he would never have ever contemplated hiring TSM.

He had many faults and they have been well documented on this site but he knew more about football than Faulkner ever will.

you must have missed the bit where he hired Graham Turner from Shrewsbury to manage a First Division football club that two years prior were champions of europe.

Not at all Toronto.

Did you miss my 'He had many faults.' ?

I went to lots of games under Turner. He had been Shrewsbury's best manager, was considered to be a bright, young and up and coming manager.

It turned out to be a much, much too big a job for him. Like it has been for all of Lerner / Faulkner appointments thus far.

Like many, I'm still hoping to be proved wrong with Lambert as it would mean a) we will have improved at least to a moderate extent b) it means Faulkner doesn't have to make (or is not involved in) another managerial apppintment anytime soon.

More pertiently does anyone know who at the club agreed £2m+ wages for Jermaine Jenas for a year without any rebate in the instance of injury?

Rob, but the comment about he would never have hired McLeish can't be used if he hired a man like Turner who was from two divisions lower and out of his depth of running a club that was where it was 2 seasons prior. McLeish for all his faults at least had some pedigree running big clubs and winning trophies. Or even Venglos to follow Graham Taylor who had a mixed past in europe to take over a side that just finished second in the league.

[rob_bridge]

After listening I couldnt help think that Faulkner is like a clone of Doug! Even down to talking up his role at the FA, like we give a F'!

Not quite, Doug would've sacked Lambert long ago especially after the Bradford debacle 12 months ago....

Yes and hired Billy McNeill or Graham Turner or Venglos. He had a flawless managerial appointment record did Doug

And he would never have ever contemplated hiring TSM.

He had many faults and they have been well documented on this site but he knew more about football than Faulkner ever will.

you must have missed the bit where he hired Graham Turner from Shrewsbury to manage a First Division football club that two years prior were champions of europe.

Not at all Toronto.

Did you miss my 'He had many faults.' ?

I went to lots of games under Turner. He had been Shrewsbury's best manager, was considered to be a bright, young and up and coming manager.

It turned out to be a much, much too big a job for him. Like it has been for all of Lerner / Faulkner appointments thus far.

Like many, I'm still hoping to be proved wrong with Lambert as it would mean a) we will have improved at least to a moderate extent b) it means Faulkner doesn't have to make (or is not involved in) another managerial apppintment anytime soon.

More pertiently does anyone know who at the club agreed £2m+ wages for Jermaine Jenas for a year without any rebate in the instance of injury?

Rob, but the comment about he would never have hired McLeish can't be used if he hired a man like Turner who was from two divisions lower and out of his depth of running a club that was where it was 2 seasons prior. McLeish for all his faults at least had some pedigree running big clubs and winning trophies. Or even Venglos to follow Graham Taylor who had a mixed past in europe to take over a side that just finished second in the league.

Who would have thought 3.5 years ago Rodgers would be managing Liverpool 2 years later?

Shrewsbury were top half in Division 2 (which was the 2nd Tier in those days) - punching well above their weight. He was a very highly regarded young manager.

McLeish with 2 relegations and 3rd place finish with Rangers (which is equivalent to relegation) and no affiliation to Villa would not have even been considered by Herbert.

The Venglos appointment was imaginative at least - just the wrong bloke at the wrong club. Oft copied by other clubs ever since.

[rob_bridge]

Anyone who is advocating Tan over Lerner needs to book an appointment with their doctor quickly.

Missed this one.

Correct, though I suspect it might be too late.

[dave.woodhall]

After listening I couldnt help think that Faulkner is like a clone of Doug! Even down to talking up his role at the FA, like we give a F'!

Not quite, Doug would've sacked Lambert long ago especially after the Bradford debacle 12 months ago....

Yes and hired Billy McNeill or Graham Turner or Venglos. He had a flawless managerial appointment record did Doug

And he would never have ever contemplated hiring TSM.

He had many faults and they have been well documented on this site but he knew more about football than Faulkner ever will.

you must have missed the bit where he hired Graham Turner from Shrewsbury to manage a First Division football club that two years prior were champions of europe.

Not at all Toronto.

Did you miss my 'He had many faults.' ?

I went to lots of games under Turner. He had been Shrewsbury's best manager, was considered to be a bright, young and up and coming manager.

It turned out to be a much, much too big a job for him. Like it has been for all of Lerner / Faulkner appointments thus far.

Like many, I'm still hoping to be proved wrong with Lambert as it would mean a) we will have improved at least to a moderate extent b) it means Faulkner doesn't have to make (or is not involved in) another managerial apppintment anytime soon.

More pertiently does anyone know who at the club agreed £2m+ wages for Jermaine Jenas for a year without any rebate in the instance of injury?

Rob, but the comment about he would never have hired McLeish can't be used if he hired a man like Turner who was from two divisions lower and out of his depth of running a club that was where it was 2 seasons prior. McLeish for all his faults at least had some pedigree running big clubs and winning trophies. Or even Venglos to follow Graham Taylor who had a mixed past in europe to take over a side that just finished second in the league.

Who would have thought 3.5 years ago Rodgers would be managing Liverpool 2 years later?

Shrewsbury were top half in Division 2 (which was the 2nd Tier in those days) - punching well above their weight. He was a very highly regarded young manager.

McLeish with 2 relegations and 3rd place finish with Rangers (which is equivalent to relegation) and no affiliation to Villa would not have even been considered by Herbert.

The Venglos appointment was imaginative at least - just the wrong bloke at the wrong club. Oft copied by other clubs ever since.

I wouldn't defend appointing McLeish but a couple of things need to be remembered. He'd won a trophy, managed a big club (and if third with Rangers is bad then surely his runners-up with Motherwell was a major achievement) and we were mid-table. His playing achievements were also worthy of respect. He had played and managed at the highest level. Turner was asked to go straight from Shrewsbury Town, the biggest club he'd ever been associated with, to a dressing room full of internationals and European champions, some of whom were barely more than a couple of years younger then him.

[Concrete John]

So, we've had suggestions for Sam Allerdyce as manager, Jason Scotland being signed and now Vincent Tan to buy the club?

For those who claim things can't get any worse, there you go!

[SW9-VILLA]

If I was offered a choice between our absent no mark of an owner and Vincent Tan I think I would probably choose the latter. Granted Tan is making bad decisions but you dont make an omlette without breaking eggs. He is there every week, living through it with the fans proudly wearing his clubs shirt. He cares a great deal and is successful in other walks of life - Eventually he may get it right and push Cardiff on to the next level. For a start, how did he manage to convince solksjaer to go to Cardiff or Martinez to Everton when tinky-winky and la-laa could not convince them to take over the sleeping giant that is AVFC.

Someone should ask PF why Randy could not be arsed coming back over here when the future king of england came visiting recently. I have no faith in either of them

Not sure if this is a joke post or not but just in case it isnt I direct your attention here:



I also enjoyed the poster who agreed that we would be better off with Tan because Lerner and Faulkner are not 'football men'

Must be trolling.

[chazvilla]

What a waste of 15 minutes. PR led drivel, not really telling us anything we don't already know. I tell you what though, Lambert isn't going anywhere - Lerner & Faulkner are delighted with what he's achieving - in terms of league placement currently we are bang in line with  comfortable premier league survival, and all done on a shoe string. That's all they want - stay in the Prem, and keep sucking on the money teet. The days of Aston Villa being a football club is over and it's really bloody sad.

[Toronto Villa]

The days of Aston Villa being a football club is over and it's really bloody sad.

a new contender emerges for being the most overly dramatic statement ever made on this site

[Legion]

Are we taking up lacrosse instead?