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Re: Mistakes and missed opportunities
« Reply #90 on: January 13, 2014, 03:42:04 PM »
Aside from Moyes -who was the popular choice back then, I did mention Laudrup as one to look at in 2010.  Part of the reason for that was his willingness to take the job previously.

But after Brondby, he developed a reputation for only staying with clubs for less than 12 months.  There was also a suggestion that he was offered the Blackburn job and had insisted on a release clause allowing him to move to Spain should one of the La Liga clubs come in for him.

Swansea look like a good, progressive outfit. But in fairness, he has benefited from the good work that occurred there previously.   You'd have to wonder what he would have made of players like NRC, Sidwell, Dunne and Collins though, blokes who had some very admirable qualities but who could trap a ball further than most mere mortals can kick it.

This was my point on another thread about Swansea, they are a club who has adopted a footballing style that stays regardless of the manager. It's the way to run a football club because it makes appointing managers a lot easier and also you don't tend to need a mass exodus of players every time a new man comes in.

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Re: Mistakes and missed opportunities
« Reply #91 on: January 13, 2014, 03:57:17 PM »
They look toothless up front to me. I am not sure if that is progressive.

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Re: Mistakes and missed opportunities
« Reply #92 on: January 13, 2014, 03:58:25 PM »
Aye, you could say similar about the Olbiyun, for all their many faults. Naturally I hope this season proves to be a fridge to far and they crash and burn.

A DoF or similar with a young coach definitely has merit, particularly when you consider the naivety and lack of experience RL and Faulkner seem so keen to demonstrate again and again.

The exception to going that route would be if someone like Moyes becomes available - not completely out of the question, considering Yanited's current travails.

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Re: Mistakes and missed opportunities
« Reply #93 on: January 13, 2014, 04:10:30 PM »
They're largely toothless upfront because their primary goalscorer is out injured.

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Re: Mistakes and missed opportunities
« Reply #94 on: January 13, 2014, 04:31:11 PM »
Aside from Moyes -who was the popular choice back then, I did mention Laudrup as one to look at in 2010.  Part of the reason for that was his willingness to take the job previously.

But after Brondby, he developed a reputation for only staying with clubs for less than 12 months.  There was also a suggestion that he was offered the Blackburn job and had insisted on a release clause allowing him to move to Spain should one of the La Liga clubs come in for him.

Swansea look like a good, progressive outfit. But in fairness, he has benefited from the good work that occurred there previously.   You'd have to wonder what he would have made of players like NRC, Sidwell, Dunne and Collins though, blokes who had some very admirable qualities but who could trap a ball further than most mere mortals can kick it.

This was my point on another thread about Swansea, they are a club who has adopted a footballing style that stays regardless of the manager. It's the way to run a football club because it makes appointing managers a lot easier and also you don't tend to need a mass exodus of players every time a new man comes in.

I believe it's a somewhat similar set up in Lyon. Each signing is made by a committee consisting of the chairman/DoF, other high ranking board members, coaches, scouts and of course the manager (or head coach as it is in this system, similar to Albion). Would be great to have something similar where there was an ethos throughout the club and have everyone pulling in the same direction.

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Re: Mistakes and missed opportunities
« Reply #95 on: January 13, 2014, 04:36:06 PM »
They're largely toothless upfront because their primary goalscorer is out injured.

They spent £12 million on Bony. Maybe Lambert knows a better striker when he sees one?

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Re: Mistakes and missed opportunities
« Reply #96 on: January 13, 2014, 04:38:40 PM »
Aside from Moyes -who was the popular choice back then, I did mention Laudrup as one to look at in 2010.  Part of the reason for that was his willingness to take the job previously.

But after Brondby, he developed a reputation for only staying with clubs for less than 12 months.  There was also a suggestion that he was offered the Blackburn job and had insisted on a release clause allowing him to move to Spain should one of the La Liga clubs come in for him.

Swansea look like a good, progressive outfit. But in fairness, he has benefited from the good work that occurred there previously.   You'd have to wonder what he would have made of players like NRC, Sidwell, Dunne and Collins though, blokes who had some very admirable qualities but who could trap a ball further than most mere mortals can kick it.

This was my point on another thread about Swansea, they are a club who has adopted a footballing style that stays regardless of the manager. It's the way to run a football club because it makes appointing managers a lot easier and also you don't tend to need a mass exodus of players every time a new man comes in.

I believe it's a somewhat similar set up in Lyon. Each signing is made by a committee consisting of the chairman/DoF, other high ranking board members, coaches, scouts and of course the manager (or head coach as it is in this system, similar to Albion). Would be great to have something similar where there was an ethos throughout the club and have everyone pulling in the same direction.

I think you can build a club up that way, but is it right to get them truely successful?  If you look at the top managers, they'd want total control and it's these managers that win the trophies.

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Re: Mistakes and missed opportunities
« Reply #97 on: January 13, 2014, 06:15:28 PM »
Not buying Gazza in 1995.

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Re: Mistakes and missed opportunities
« Reply #98 on: January 13, 2014, 06:33:28 PM »
Watching Swansea against Manure the other day was like pulling teeth. It was shocking how much of the ball they had and they barely created anything. I'm sure at one point they passed it about 50 times then it ended up back with Williams who hoofed it to no one.

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Re: Mistakes and missed opportunities
« Reply #99 on: January 13, 2014, 06:43:18 PM »
Not buying Gazza in 1995.
Bullet dodged, in my opinion.

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Re: Mistakes and missed opportunities
« Reply #100 on: January 13, 2014, 06:54:25 PM »
Great subject and there has been plenty over the years, but in my lifetime it was when BFR brought back Dalian into the team in the run in to the 93 season. Yorke and Saunders were really getting a partnership going, and BFR moved Yorke to the wing upsetting the team. Its all ifs and buts, but we had such momentum at the time is was only ours to lose.....and we bloody did.

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Re: Mistakes and missed opportunities
« Reply #101 on: January 13, 2014, 07:23:15 PM »
They're largely toothless upfront because their primary goalscorer is out injured.

They spent £12 million on Bony. Maybe Lambert knows a better striker when he sees one?

Bony is starting to score goals now, it's taken him time to settle and he was injured for a while.

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Re: Mistakes and missed opportunities
« Reply #102 on: January 13, 2014, 08:52:41 PM »
They look toothless up front to me. I am not sure if that is progressive.

Bet you would swop places with them?

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Re: Mistakes and missed opportunities
« Reply #103 on: January 13, 2014, 08:54:58 PM »
They look toothless up front to me. I am not sure if that is progressive.

Bet you would swop places with them?

I doubt it right now as they're below us. However in comparison the trajectory of the two clubs in the last 5 years is quite telling.

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Re: Mistakes and missed opportunities
« Reply #104 on: January 13, 2014, 09:07:29 PM »
They look toothless up front to me. I am not sure if that is progressive.

Bet you would swop places with them?

I doubt it right now as they're below us. However in comparison the trajectory of the two clubs in the last 5 years is quite telling.

True

They have a trophy in the bank, progressive manager and a decent squad. The europa league and Michu being injured has kiiled them in the prem this year

 


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