Der Hammer

[SO Villa]

Regarding the comments/chants towards Lawrenson, Le Saux, Upson et al, I think it's because they are NOT gay that people feel that they can abuse them.

[Concrete John]

It's probably chants/comments towards then that make gay footballers feel they have to hide it.

[SO Villa]

It's probably chants/comments towards then that make gay footballers feel they have to hide it.

Until a high-profile current player comes out then we'll never know. I actually think that there would be a huge amount of goodwill and support for that player when it does happen.

[dekko]

I wouldn't be surprised if instead of a high-profile player coming out, we'll sooner get a young player whose been out the whole time working his way up.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Best wishes to Tommy Hitz. Sadly I can't see any current high profile player ever coming out in the near future but maybe by Tommy's example a few more retired players will, which will be a small step in the right direction. The sooner it becomes a non-issue the better.

As for him having a girlfriend/wife a few years ago, it's nothing new, a lot of gay men and women don't fully realise their true sexuality until their 20's or 30's.

[Brend'Watkins]

I've not seen any of the players who were of the same villa era come out (!) in support of hitz, which is a bit disappointing perhaps?

Why make a fuss, it's no big deal really is it?

No it isn't, but when you see some of the absolute drivel posted by players on twitter you'd imagine news of a former teammate coming out might elicit at least a message of support in 140 characters or less.

Some have

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/10558636/Thomas-Hitzlsperger-thanks-everyone-for-support-as-former-Chelsea-defender-Alex-makes-anti-gay-comments.html

[glasses]

Best wishes to Tommy Hitz. Sadly I can't see any current high profile player ever coming out in the near future but maybe by Tommy's example a few more retired players will, which will be a small step in the right direction. The sooner it becomes a non-issue the better.

As for him having a girlfriend/wife a few years ago, it's nothing new, a lot of gay men and women don't fully realise their true sexuality until their 20's or 30's.

I'm 28, and last year was the first time I made a salad and brought it to work for lunch. I'd never been interested in losing weight before granted, but I do it regularly now. You are never too old to learn something new about yourself.

[glasses]

I've not seen any of the players who were of the same villa era come out (!) in support of hitz, which is a bit disappointing perhaps?

Why make a fuss, it's no big deal really is it?

No it isn't, but when you see some of the absolute drivel posted by players on twitter you'd imagine news of a former teammate coming out might elicit at least a message of support in 140 characters or less.

Some have

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/10558636/Thomas-Hitzlsperger-thanks-everyone-for-support-as-former-Chelsea-defender-Alex-makes-anti-gay-comments.html

Joey Barton there. A man who put a cigar out on someones face, assaulted a team mate and punched a 15 year old talking about 'Society', and 'shame on us all'

Fuck off Joey.

[Brend'Watkins]

He's consistent if nothing else is Joey.  That's the only adjective without an expletive in front of it I can write about him.

[Ger Regan]

I've not seen any of the players who were of the same villa era come out (!) in support of hitz, which is a bit disappointing perhaps?

Why make a fuss, it's no big deal really is it?

No it isn't, but when you see some of the absolute drivel posted by players on twitter you'd imagine news of a former teammate coming out might elicit at least a message of support in 140 characters or less.

Some have

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/10558636/Thomas-Hitzlsperger-thanks-everyone-for-support-as-former-Chelsea-defender-Alex-makes-anti-gay-comments.html

Joey Barton there. A man who put a cigar out on someones face, assaulted a team mate and punched a 15 year old talking about 'Society', and 'shame on us all'

Fuck off Joey.

Not to mention calling someone a ladyboy.

[hipkiss92]

Saw this posted on facebook yesterday, very interesting read
http://reflectionsasia.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/graeme-le-saux-how-gay-slurs-almost-wrecked-my-career/

[Clampy]

Saw this posted on facebook yesterday, very interesting read
http://reflectionsasia.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/graeme-le-saux-how-gay-slurs-almost-wrecked-my-career/

Read that earlier. Dose'nt surprise me that Savage played a part in it.

[Monty]

Saw this posted on facebook yesterday, very interesting read
http://reflectionsasia.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/graeme-le-saux-how-gay-slurs-almost-wrecked-my-career/

Read that earlier. Dose'nt surprise me that Savage played a part in it.

Have to say, the image Le Saux has conjured of a couple of hundred irate gay clubbers chasing down Robbie Fowler and beating the shit out of him made me chuckle quite a bit.

[saunders_heroes]

Saw this posted on facebook yesterday, very interesting read
http://reflectionsasia.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/graeme-le-saux-how-gay-slurs-almost-wrecked-my-career/

What a fantastic read, well written and heartfelt. The stick Le Saux received is just mind boggling yet he's not even gay! Shame on anyone whoever dishes out homophobic insults.
Robbie Fowler really is a disgusting individual, the same applies to Robbie Savage. I'd love for someone to pull the latter up for it on his 606 phone in show.

[Dave Cooper please]

We are getting there with racism. throwing bananas and shouting stuff like Paki or black bastard is now seen as unacceptable. Unfortunately a shouted homophobic remark is more than likely going to be met with laughter rather than condemnation, but we will get there eventually  hope.

My brother is gay, he took a lot of abuse in his teenage years before finding a group of more accepting friends. I once had a stand up fight with a Free Church Minister in The Highlands after he had a go at my brother saying that homosexuality is a sin and my brother would rot in hell. The minister won, one hell of a right hook on him.