Libor Kozak

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He was doing OK until he got injured in December 13, when they weren't lumping the ball to him lazily such as 0-0 at Hull in the October where they routinely smashed it long.

His injury record since then has been abysmal, and given they're all fractures of one kind or another it's not like you could argue this is something we or he could forsee.

[aj2k77]

He really has been an utter waste of space since he signed.

No, he's been unlucky with injuries.

To be fair he was never a £6m striker, we got our pants truly thumbed by that deal. Again.

It's amazing that we got such completely differing value from him and Benteke, two players that cost about the same.

I think Benteke was 20 and had already had a couple of seasons where he'd hit double figures. Kozak was 23 and had hit only 10 top flight league goals in 3 years.  Maybe the Europa goals he scored clouded our thinking, but on paper it's never a player you'd throw £6m at.

[OzVilla]

He really has been an utter waste of space since he signed.

No, he's been unlucky with injuries.

To be fair he was never a £6m striker, we got our pants truly thumbed by that deal. Again.

It's amazing that we got such completely differing value from him and Benteke, two players that cost about the same.

I think Benteke was 20 and had already had a couple of seasons where he'd hit double figures. Kozak was 23 and had hit only 10 top flight league goals in 3 years.  Maybe the Europa goals he scored clouded our thinking, but on paper it's never a player you'd throw £6m at.

Unless your the genius that is Paul Lambert.

[AVH87]

So Kozak out for a month, but Gestede back sooner (whoopy do).

[Malandro]

He really has been an utter waste of space since he signed.

No, he's been unlucky with injuries.

To be fair he was never a £6m striker, we got our pants truly thumbed by that deal. Again.

I really haven't seen enough of him to judge him on his footballing, injury wise, it was a bad investment. I can't fault his attitude - I certainly wouldn't label the man a waste of space.

[Clampy]

He really has been an utter waste of space since he signed.

No, he's been unlucky with injuries.

Is the right answer.

[chrisw1]

Maybe.  He's certainly been a waste of money.  So it's really just semantics.

[Dr Butler]

To be fair he was never a £6m striker, we got our pants truly thumbed by that deal. Again.

sorry I don't agree...he has had some appalling injuries whilst he has been here,  for £6million he was playing at Lazio I believe scoring a few goals in their League and the Europa cup games, he was in the Czech national side so for me £6million was good value at that time.

Shame about his injuries...

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The Doc

[The Man With A Stick]

I think our current motley crew of "strikers" must be the most pathetic we've had since I started watching the Villa in 1988.  Ayew excepted (and the jury's out on him still), they're all either permanently injured, fat, shit or a combination of all three.

[Ad@m]

To be fair he was never a £6m striker, we got our pants truly thumbed by that deal. Again.

sorry I don't agree...he has had some appalling injuries whilst he has been here,  for £6million he was playing at Lazio I believe scoring a few goals in their League and the Europa cup games, he was in the Czech national side so for me £6million was good value at that time.

Shame about his injuries...

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The Doc

'A few' being the right way to describe his goalscoring record, which is no better than Gabby's.

At what point does something that keeps happening stop being down to luck?  Football history is littered with players who keep getting injured - Darren Anderton, Garry Gardener, Jermaine Jenas, Daniel Sturridge, etc, etc.  Were they all unlucky or was their something in their physical makeup which just made them more subsceptible to injury?  If the latter, could our medical team done anything differently to have picked this up before we paid £6m for him?

And regardless of whether it's down to luck or otherwise, I don't see how anyone can disagree that at the moment we've got very little for the £6m initial fee and however much we've paid since to him in wages.

[aj2k77]

To be fair he was never a £6m striker, we got our pants truly thumbed by that deal. Again.

sorry I don't agree...he has had some appalling injuries whilst he has been here,  for £6million he was playing at Lazio I believe scoring a few goals in their League and the Europa cup games, he was in the Czech national side so for me £6million was good value at that time.

Shame about his injuries...

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The Doc

He wasn't playing at Lazio though was he. He had the equivalent of 20 games over three seasons barely starting any and then was used in the Europa when they'd rest players.

[old man villa fan]

To be fair he was never a £6m striker, we got our pants truly thumbed by that deal. Again.

sorry I don't agree...he has had some appalling injuries whilst he has been here,  for £6million he was playing at Lazio I believe scoring a few goals in their League and the Europa cup games, he was in the Czech national side so for me £6million was good value at that time.

Shame about his injuries...

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The Doc

'A few' being the right way to describe his goalscoring record, which is no better than Gabby's.

At what point does something that keeps happening stop being down to luck?  Football history is littered with players who keep getting injured - Darren Anderton, Garry Gardener, Jermaine Jenas, Daniel Sturridge, etc, etc.  Were they all unlucky or was their something in their physical makeup which just made them more subsceptible to injury?  If the latter, could our medical team done anything differently to have picked this up before we paid £6m for him?

And regardless of whether it's down to luck or otherwise, I don't see how anyone can disagree that at the moment we've got very little for the £6m initial fee and however much we've paid since to him in wages.

Did he have injuries at Lazio?

[Dave]

At what point does something that keeps happening stop being down to luck?  Football history is littered with players who keep getting injured - Darren Anderton, Garry Gardener, Jermaine Jenas, Daniel Sturridge, etc, etc.  Were they all unlucky or was their something in their physical makeup which just made them more subsceptible to injury?  If the latter, could our medical team done anything differently to have picked this up before we paid £6m for him?

It depends on the injury. If somebody is out for a year with a broken leg and then they break the ankle on their other leg (no idea if this is the case with Kozak) then it's coincidence.

If somebody has a regular recurrence of a knee ligament or groin problem then it isn't.

[Villa in Denmark]

He really has been an utter waste of space since he signed.

He's just made it back after 2 years of rehab and gets this? A broken leg and a broken ankle after scoring at a reasonable rate in his appearances before the broken leg and that's the only thing you've got to say?

We all know what you think of the club, the squad, the board, but give the guy a break.   Christ I'm amazed you haven't found a reason to criticise the brickwork on the Holte yet.

[Malandro]

He really has been an utter waste of space since he signed.

He's just made it back after 2 years of rehab and gets this? A broken leg and a broken ankle after scoring at a reasonable rate in his appearances before the broken leg and that's the only thing you've got to say?

We all know what you think of the club, the squad, the board, but give the guy a break.   Christ I'm amazed you haven't found a reason to criticise the brickwork on the Holte yet.

I may be wrong but the first serious injury was a collision with Clark, the second layoff was due to a complication (was it reported possible medical negligence?) and the recent ankle injury was the result of being clobbered.

He's hardly Anderton/Sturridge.