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Re: Libor Kozak injured
« Reply #255 on: December 06, 2014, 05:56:30 PM »
That comment is a bit old now and it was quite a responsive question. With hindsight I should have termed it more as a curiosity as to what the issue is and whether it was preventable or whether its just the risk of surgery. I've had both ankles reconstructed and I was told before them that in 99% of cases there will be no complications. That obviously still leaves the 1% though so complications can occur even when everything seems to have gone perfectly well. I've been studying a lot of anatomy and physiology lately too and it's ridiculous how complicated the human body is.

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Re: Libor Kozak injured
« Reply #256 on: December 06, 2014, 06:07:57 PM »
That comment is a bit old now and it was quite a responsive question. With hindsight I should have termed it more as a curiosity as to what the issue is and whether it was preventable or whether its just the risk of surgery. I've had both ankles reconstructed and I was told before them that in 99% of cases there will be no complications. That obviously still leaves the 1% though so complications can occur even when everything seems to have gone perfectly well. I've been studying a lot of anatomy and physiology lately too and it's ridiculous how complicated the human body is.

you're right there. I broke my leg when I was 16, so back in 1989. Compound fracture, 4 breaks, a number of pins, in a cast of some nature for the best part of 18 months. I bet that wouldn't be a year now, and for the pros even less. The biggest mistake the doctor at Good Hope made, if you can believe this, I didn't get an x-ray when I first went in. My calf had swelled up and so they deemed it a muscle injury. 4 days later with my peg turning black I was rushed back in by my family doctor and after tests and examination and into surgery. Apparently, the x-ray was an oversight first time around, and the swelling in my calf was due to bleeding that I was having that led me to having thinning tablets to ease the hardening in there. How did they get it that wrong?

Hopefully whatever it is with Kozak isn't anything more than a complication that was unforeseen than any kind of initial error. He was doing well when this happened and seemed to really enjoy being at the club.

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Re: Libor Kozak injured
« Reply #257 on: December 06, 2014, 07:22:18 PM »
That comment is a bit old now and it was quite a responsive question. With hindsight I should have termed it more as a curiosity as to what the issue is and whether it was preventable or whether its just the risk of surgery. I've had both ankles reconstructed and I was told before them that in 99% of cases there will be no complications. That obviously still leaves the 1% though so complications can occur even when everything seems to have gone perfectly well. I've been studying a lot of anatomy and physiology lately too and it's ridiculous how complicated the human body is.

you're right there. I broke my leg when I was 16, so back in 1989. Compound fracture, 4 breaks, a number of pins, in a cast of some nature for the best part of 18 months. I bet that wouldn't be a year now, and for the pros even less. The biggest mistake the doctor at Good Hope made, if you can believe this, I didn't get an x-ray when I first went in. My calf had swelled up and so they deemed it a muscle injury. 4 days later with my peg turning black I was rushed back in by my family doctor and after tests and examination and into surgery. Apparently, the x-ray was an oversight first time around, and the swelling in my calf was due to bleeding that I was having that led me to having thinning tablets to ease the hardening in there. How did they get it that wrong?

Hopefully whatever it is with Kozak isn't anything more than a complication that was unforeseen than any kind of initial error. He was doing well when this happened and seemed to really enjoy being at the club.

I bust my kneecap in '98, and went to Good Hope as I did it playing football in Sutton park.

They put me in cast despite the swelling still growing, and subsequently I was rushed back up the place around midnight screaming in agony, fed pain killers for 12 hours, until someone qualified took one look at it and cut the cast off. He then stuck a needle into my knee, and proceeded to drain the blood out of it, as there was 120ml where there should have been 10ml, hence my discomfort.

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Re: Libor Kozak injured
« Reply #258 on: December 06, 2014, 09:09:03 PM »
Good Hope Hospital. That brings back some memories!! None too fond memories mind! Skin graft for my sister, referral to palliative care for my mother.

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Re: Libor Kozak injured
« Reply #259 on: December 07, 2014, 11:22:40 PM »
Good Hope Hospital. That brings back some memories!! None too fond memories mind! Skin graft for my sister, referral to palliative care for my mother.

Sorry to hear that Newby. Hope all turned out as well as possible

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Re: Libor Kozak injured
« Reply #260 on: December 08, 2014, 09:12:38 AM »
That comment is a bit old now and it was quite a responsive question. With hindsight I should have termed it more as a curiosity as to what the issue is and whether it was preventable or whether its just the risk of surgery. I've had both ankles reconstructed and I was told before them that in 99% of cases there will be no complications. That obviously still leaves the 1% though so complications can occur even when everything seems to have gone perfectly well. I've been studying a lot of anatomy and physiology lately too and it's ridiculous how complicated the human body is.

you're right there. I broke my leg when I was 16, so back in 1989. Compound fracture, 4 breaks, a number of pins, in a cast of some nature for the best part of 18 months. I bet that wouldn't be a year now, and for the pros even less. The biggest mistake the doctor at Good Hope made, if you can believe this, I didn't get an x-ray when I first went in. My calf had swelled up and so they deemed it a muscle injury. 4 days later with my peg turning black I was rushed back in by my family doctor and after tests and examination and into surgery. Apparently, the x-ray was an oversight first time around, and the swelling in my calf was due to bleeding that I was having that led me to having thinning tablets to ease the hardening in there. How did they get it that wrong?

Hopefully whatever it is with Kozak isn't anything more than a complication that was unforeseen than any kind of initial error. He was doing well when this happened and seemed to really enjoy being at the club.

I bust my kneecap in '98, and went to Good Hope as I did it playing football in Sutton park.

They put me in cast despite the swelling still growing, and subsequently I was rushed back up the place around midnight screaming in agony, fed pain killers for 12 hours, until someone qualified took one look at it and cut the cast off. He then stuck a needle into my knee, and proceeded to drain the blood out of it, as there was 120ml where there should have been 10ml, hence my discomfort.

when I was 17 I broke my fibula, cracked my patella and had a partial tear to my lateral collateral ligament (inside back of the knee) as well as a whole of damage to my quad (it was a fucking horror tackle).  I had a cast, they didn't foresee any complications and after 8 months I was back fit and playing rugby (fuck playing football after that injury) everything was absolutely fine.  At 26 I got married and on my honeymoon we went diving and about halfway through I felt my knee just go and had to give up.  Once I decided it wasn't getting better I went to the hospital and it led to 2 operations to pretty much rebuild the knee because I'd also done a tiny tear to my anterior cruciate ligament that hadn't been picked up and it had been slowly weakening over years until it eventually snapped.  Took 2 years to recover in the end and it still feels weaker than it was 8 years on from the first op.

Moral of the story, some injuries can be easily missed when there's an obvious and massive injury to work on but they may present problems later.

Of course in this case it could be (as seems to be the case) as simple as the pins of plates not taking.

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Re: Libor Kozak injured
« Reply #261 on: December 22, 2014, 12:46:48 PM »
Did anyone hear a comment during commentry of the Man Utd game saying Kozak was on his way back. They made it sound like he was a few weeks away...just checked this thread to see if it was true.

:-(

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Re: Libor Kozak injured
« Reply #262 on: December 22, 2014, 01:05:01 PM »
From the OS last week on injury updates.

On a positive note, Lambert said Libor Kozak [leg] was making definite strides forward in his rehabilitation from the broken leg he suffered on January 2, 2014.

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Re: Libor Kozak injured
« Reply #263 on: December 22, 2014, 01:06:55 PM »
It would be brilliant just to see him come back any time this season. Hopefully by Feb/March he has made enough progress to be considered for selection again.

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Re: Libor Kozak injured
« Reply #264 on: December 22, 2014, 02:19:21 PM »
It would be interesting to see Benteke and Kozak paired together and given a run together. I don't think we've been able to do that yet, at least not with both in form.

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Re: Libor Kozak injured
« Reply #265 on: December 22, 2014, 03:22:27 PM »
From the OS last week on injury updates.

On a positive note, Lambert said Libor Kozak [leg] was making definite strides forward in his rehabilitation from the broken leg he suffered on January 2, 2014.

Was expecting to see more bad news when I saw this thread had been updated. Nice to be wrong.

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Re: Libor Kozak injured
« Reply #266 on: December 22, 2014, 03:29:54 PM »
Just as a counterbalance to the grim incidents above I would like to say thank you to Professor Sir Keith M Porter, of Queen Elizaberth Hospital, Birmingham. He attended my sister, Liz, at the roadside after a driver ran into her whilst pillion passenger on my brother's motorbike. Her leg was smashed to smithereens, almost literally. Not only did she live, keep her leg and walk again she has run several marathons since. She's my hero (and a season ticket holder for many years) but the Prof is too. Miracles do happen.

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Re: Libor Kozak injured
« Reply #267 on: December 22, 2014, 03:36:56 PM »
Did anyone hear a comment during commentry of the Man Utd game saying Kozak was on his way back. They made it sound like he was a few weeks away...just checked this thread to see if it was true.

:-(

Why the sad face?

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Re: Libor Kozak injured
« Reply #268 on: December 22, 2014, 03:37:55 PM »
This is what Lambert said a few days ago

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On a positive note, Lambert said Libor Kozak [leg] was making definite strides forward in his rehabilitation from the broken leg he suffered on January 2, 2014.

"Libor is doing alright. He had a scan yesterday.

"The bone is definitely getting stronger and healing.

"He's doing well but he's still a bit away."

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Re: Libor Kozak injured
« Reply #269 on: December 22, 2014, 03:55:00 PM »
Did anyone hear a comment during commentry of the Man Utd game saying Kozak was on his way back. They made it sound like he was a few weeks away...just checked this thread to see if it was true.

:-(

Why the sad face?

Sad face was because I didn't see anything updated here, so I assumed the commentator was mistaken.

Glad to hear that things are going better for him, though nothing sounds imminent, it looked like it might be the end of his playing career at one point.

 


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