Sunderland v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Legion]

When points are handed out for possession we should worry.

Yes, we all know that.  However, you have to be able to see that lack of possession invites pressure that we are not equipped to deal with.   We are a couple of players away from being a solid mid-table side.  Instead, we are mid-table with a better than average chance of sliding into trouble.

"Better than average." How do you work that out?

I consider the bottom 8 being in trouble.  Would you put money on us finishing in the top 8 or the bottom 8 as thing stands now?

Middle 4.

[dave.woodhall]

When points are handed out for possession we should worry.

Yes, we all know that.  However, you have to be able to see that lack of possession invites pressure that we are not equipped to deal with.   We are a couple of players away from being a solid mid-table side.  Instead, we are mid-table with a better than average chance of sliding into trouble.

"Better than average." How do you work that out?

I consider the bottom 8 being in trouble.  Would you put money on us finishing in the top 8 or the bottom 8 as thing stands now?

I'd put my money on us being in neither and it's a spin of Herculean proportions to call being thirteenth at the end of the season in trouble.

[Hampshire Villa]

We're in a great position now. Mid-table despite not playing very well, or even looking like professional footballers at times with some of the sloppy control and passing. However there's places in the top half of the table which are ripe for the taking. Southampton are struggling to maintain their early form. That place could be ours.
If we get some composure from somewhere, we can play football. We showed that today (very briefly). Better movement, more composure. Some good signings will make that come easier. And if Benteke gets a goal soon, I think the floodgates will open for him.

We should really be going for it. The quicker we separate ourselves from the toss at the bottom, the better. Look upwards from here on in, not downwards. This was a massive win going into a tough double header. A bit more quality and a little experience coming in and it'll help us no end.

Lets get some of our young talent in the 18 for the Sheff game too. Johnson, Robinson  and Helenius need some game time. Benteke and Weimann need a break until the next league games (though Weimann needs dropping in truth).

Wiemann needs dropping for his own good. The lad is shot away.He looks like he doesn't really have a clue, hop sense of position, can't pass or challenge at the moment! He has gone off the boil, to keep playing him in his mental state will make him worse!. Don't be too hard on him, he works hard  and I am sure that with the right mentoring could be a fantastic player!

[dl9]

Ohhhh the relief. I'm most happiest for our kid (Des Little) goes to every match everywhere and is probably paying £3 for a can of coke and £2 for a packet of crisps on the coach as we speak.

The reality however is that this win is merely papering over the cracks, we are still flattering to deceive and one again with only 35% of the possession we are living dangerously (living on our nerves).

15 points to get between now and May and I for one will be in a better place.

The reality is that we won.
- Yep
The reality is that we got 100% of the points.
- Yep again
The reality is that no matter how good the result someone will always try to find a downside to it.
- Hat trick!

[usav]

When points are handed out for possession we should worry.

Yes, we all know that.  However, you have to be able to see that lack of possession invites pressure that we are not equipped to deal with.   We are a couple of players away from being a solid mid-table side.  Instead, we are mid-table with a better than average chance of sliding into trouble.

"Better than average." How do you work that out?

I consider the bottom 8 being in trouble.  Would you put money on us finishing in the top 8 or the bottom 8 as thing stands now?

I'd put my money on us being in neither and it's a spin of Herculean proportions to call being thirteenth at the end of the season in trouble.

Dave, I'm not spinning anything.  We are 6 points off 18th, 2 points off 13th and 10 points off 8th.   I can't predict where we will be at the end of the season, I'm talking about now and what we have seen up until now.

[SamTheMouse]

I thought Weimann did ok today. Can't quite understand why he's being singled out.

[dave.woodhall]

When points are handed out for possession we should worry.

Yes, we all know that.  However, you have to be able to see that lack of possession invites pressure that we are not equipped to deal with.   We are a couple of players away from being a solid mid-table side.  Instead, we are mid-table with a better than average chance of sliding into trouble.

"Better than average." How do you work that out?

I consider the bottom 8 being in trouble.  Would you put money on us finishing in the top 8 or the bottom 8 as thing stands now?

I'd put my money on us being in neither and it's a spin of Herculean proportions to call being thirteenth at the end of the season in trouble.

Dave, I'm not spinning anything.  We are 6 points off 18th, 2 points off 13th and 10 points off 8th.   I can't predict where we will be a the end of the season, I'm talking about now and what we have seen up until now.

And since when has thirteenth been in trouble?

[SashasGrandad]

We've now lost once on New Years Eve or New Years Day in twenty years.

Pity is we don't do as well over Christmas! (when there are more games)

[SheffieldVillain]

When points are handed out for possession we should worry.

Yes, we all know that.  However, you have to be able to see that lack of possession invites pressure that we are not equipped to deal with.   We are a couple of players away from being a solid mid-table side.  Instead, we are mid-table with a better than average chance of sliding into trouble.

"Better than average." How do you work that out?

I consider the bottom 8 being in trouble.  Would you put money on us finishing in the top 8 or the bottom 8 as thing stands now?

I'd put my money on us being in neither and it's a spin of Herculean proportions to call being thirteenth at the end of the season in trouble.

Dave, I'm not spinning anything.  We are 6 points off 18th, 2 points off 13th and 10 points off 8th.   I can't predict where we will be a the end of the season, I'm talking about now and what we have seen up until now.

Isn't a 'better than average chance of sliding into trouble' predicting what will happen in the future?

[rob_bridge]

We've now lost once on New Years Eve or New Years Day in twenty years.

Wasn't that to Sunderland ironically?

Coincidentally - not ironically.

[PeterWithesShin]

We won. Enjoy it. Happy New Year.

[usav]

When points are handed out for possession we should worry.

Yes, we all know that.  However, you have to be able to see that lack of possession invites pressure that we are not equipped to deal with.   We are a couple of players away from being a solid mid-table side.  Instead, we are mid-table with a better than average chance of sliding into trouble.

"Better than average." How do you work that out?

I consider the bottom 8 being in trouble.  Would you put money on us finishing in the top 8 or the bottom 8 as thing stands now?

I'd put my money on us being in neither and it's a spin of Herculean proportions to call being thirteenth at the end of the season in trouble.

Dave, I'm not spinning anything.  We are 6 points off 18th, 2 points off 13th and 10 points off 8th.   I can't predict where we will be a the end of the season, I'm talking about now and what we have seen up until now.

And since when has thirteenth been in trouble?

When there are 4 points separating 18th and 13th?  If that is still the case with 6 games to go, I would say that would be squeaky bum time.

Anyway, I'm not one of the misery arses around here usually, but I'm not keeping the Christmas bunting up just because we beat the shittest team in the league.   We have problems that need to be addressed desperately and I hope the owner and manager take care of that.

[usav]

Isn't a 'better than average chance of sliding into trouble' predicting what will happen in the future?

Based on what we have seen up until now.  If we buy a few players, then who knows?

[Legion]

2014 P1 W1 F1 A0 100%!

[dave.woodhall]

I thought we were the shittest team in the league?