10 year Premier League table

[Clampy]

I think the time to discuss whether we're in a relegation battle or not is in March.

Honestly, do you really think this team isn't relegation battle material?

It could well prove to be judging by the way we're playing but i'm not going to start worrying just yet.

[saunders_heroes]

I think the time to discuss whether we're in a relegation battle or not is in March.

Honestly, do you really think this team isn't relegation battle material?

It could well prove to be judging by the way we're playing but i'm not going to start worrying just yet.

Good god!
This team is relegation battle material make no mistake. Get some Premier standard players in January and we can pull away from the bottom. If not we are going to be in trouble. You must have your head firmly buried in the sand not to see just how dreadful this squad of players are.

[Clampy]

I think the time to discuss whether we're in a relegation battle or not is in March.

Honestly, do you really think this team isn't relegation battle material?

It could well prove to be judging by the way we're playing but i'm not going to start worrying just yet.

Good god!
This team is relegation battle material make no mistake. Get some Premier standard players in January and we can pull away from the bottom. If not we are going to be in trouble.

Well lets see what happens in January then shall we.

[Ads]

If you take out the teams that have collected more points than us and ignore all the games we have lost, then we are top of that table.

[kippaxvilla2]

I think the time to discuss whether we're in a relegation battle or not is in March.

Honestly, do you really think this team isn't relegation battle material?

I think the time to discuss whether we're in a relegation battle or not is in March.

Honestly, do you really think this team isn't relegation battle material?

I think the time to discuss whether we're in a relegation battle or not is in March.

Honestly, do you really think this team isn't relegation battle material?

It is really if you consider that half of the teams could still go down.  That said I've a feeling the 2nd half of the season will mirror last season with players like Benteke coming back into form.  15th finish and all cracks papered over once more.

[Dave Cooper please]

We haven't been relegated. That's wonderful!

Considering there's only nine other teams that can say it and the majority of those have got considerably more money than we have then it's pretty good, yes.

[Ad@m]

We haven't been relegated. That's wonderful!

Considering there's only nine other teams that can say it and the majority of those have got considerably more money than we have then it's pretty good, yes.

Only 8 actually.  Could be 7 if/when Fulham drop this year.

[Clampy]

We haven't been relegated. That's wonderful!

Considering there's only nine other teams that can say it and the majority of those have got considerably more money than we have then it's pretty good, yes.

Only 8 actually.  Could be 7 if/when Fulham drop this year.

I thought it was 7 or 8.

[Dave]

We haven't been relegated. That's wonderful!

Considering there's only nine other teams that can say it and the majority of those have got considerably more money than we have then it's pretty good, yes.

Only 8 actually.  Could be 7 if/when Fulham drop this year.

I thought it was 7 or 8.

I make it seven who have been in the league permanently since 92/93 and two others who have never been relegated from the Premier League (Swansea and Fulham). You could add Cardiff, but that would probably be cheating as they've not had the chance to be relegated yet.

[Ad@m]

I was just going from the table in the OP which had 9 (including us) who had been in the top flight for the past 10 years.

[paul_e]

I think the time to discuss whether we're in a relegation battle or not is in March.

Honestly, do you really think this team isn't relegation battle material?

It could well prove to be judging by the way we're playing but i'm not going to start worrying just yet.

Good god!
This team is relegation battle material make no mistake. Get some Premier standard players in January and we can pull away from the bottom. If not we are going to be in trouble. You must have your head firmly buried in the sand not to see just how dreadful this squad of players are.

And yet after playing the worst football of all time and having not a single player of any quality we're 4 points above the relegation places with 2 of our most important players due back from injury.  Did you think the squad was relegation material when we beat Arsenal because it hasn't changed much since then (Kozak in and a few guys who were never going to get a kick out).  We've got a midtable squad that's currently under-performing but getting enough points to keep us around midtable.

You're once again mistaking form for ability.  A new midfielder with a the ability to close the chasm between the midfield and attack should come in next month and will be enough to nudge us up to 8-12 in the league where I'd expect us to finish this season.

Before you ask, yes I've watched every game, and yes I think we've been poor, but there's no need to get carried away and start demanding the entire squad be replaced because their all shit and it's all Lerner's fault because he won't spend any money.  These players have the ability to create chances, we all saw that from Feb to May this year.  We've also seen that, with Vlaar in, we can grind out scrappy wins.  Goals like we scored against Swansea show that we can find a way through teams we just need to work to make that happen regularly.

[saunders_heroes]

That's where we differ because I don't think this squad of players have the ability at all. I've said it many times, most of them aren't Premier League quality and that's why we've become perennial relegation battlers. Until Lerner invests in quality players we'll continue to struggle.
Hopefully he'll come to his senses next month and signs some players fit to play for Aston Villa.

[Dave Clark Five]

That's where we differ because I don't think this squad of players have the ability at all. I've said it many times, most of them aren't Premier League quality and that's why we've become perennial relegation battlers. Until Lerner invests in quality players we'll continue to struggle.
Hopefully he'll come to his senses next month and signs some players fit to play for Aston Villa.

We have to hope that any new players will bring the best out of those who have struggled to shine so far. The ability to seek out those players is one of the things that the Manager and his cohorts are paid to do.

[Hampshire Villa]

Small Heath will be wanting an open top bus parade for finishing that high.

and West Barcelona Albion have released a DVD!

[Irish villain]

All the table shows is that we've been a midtable club for the last 10 years, on average, which is really any shock, our average finishing position in that time is 10th, if averaging 10th is a terminal decline then I clearly missed all the title challenges in the 90s.

The 90s gave us two title challenges, a fourth place finish, a fifth place finish and lets not forget never out of the top eight between 1996 and 2002. The 90s also delivered two trophies. So we finished 2nd twice, fourth once, fifth once and regularly sixth.

The following decade has been considerably less successful. Saunders_heroes might be a bit extreme to say we are in decline but can anybody argue we have not been regressing?