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Offline dave.woodhall

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Re: 10 year Premier League table
« Reply #60 on: December 31, 2013, 12:19:00 AM »
We were very good at home for all my youth through to the mid 80s, particularly under Ron Saunders. In fact, under Saunders, Villa Park was pretty much a fortress. I grew up watching Villa being strong at home so find our home form of the past few years really galling.
 

The facts say otherwise. From getting promoted to Saunders leaving we lost by my reckoning 25 home league games in just over 6 1/2 seasons. It's a good record but it's not a fortress.

Dave, you intrigued me and made me doubt my memory so I thought I would look up the stats.

You are right, it wasn't a fortress under Saunders but it was a bloody well guarded castle. In his 7.5 seasons by my reckoning we played 158 league games winning 93, drawing 40 and losing 25. So on average we lost 3.33 games per season (on average winning 12 and drawing 5). Even when we were relegated in 1970 we lost 6 games.

This record must be better than anything since I reckon.


Since we went down to the third division in 1970 our home record has outperformed our final league place seven times in 43 seasons. Since 1983 it's been five times in thirty. We just don't do well at home.

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Re: 10 year Premier League table
« Reply #61 on: December 31, 2013, 12:21:44 AM »
A great day this has turned out to be. I'm suicidal, me mate tries to kill me, me gun gets nicked and we're still in fucking Bruges.

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Re: 10 year Premier League table
« Reply #62 on: December 31, 2013, 12:26:02 AM »
A great day this has turned out to be. I'm suicidal, me mate tries to kill me, me gun gets nicked and we're still in fucking Bruges.

Get the train to Ghent and a cab to the Waterhuis.

Offline paul_e

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Re: 10 year Premier League table
« Reply #63 on: December 31, 2013, 12:46:33 AM »
All the table shows is that we've been a midtable club for the last 10 years, on average, which is really any shock, our average finishing position in that time is 10th, if averaging 10th is a terminal decline then I clearly missed all the title challenges in the 90s.

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Re: 10 year Premier League table
« Reply #64 on: December 31, 2013, 12:51:04 AM »
I would imagine our average league place in my time is 9th or 10th. Lower if I go from when I was born rather than from my first game as I reckon that was 75/76 so I can ignore division 2 and 3 which would drag the average right down.

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Re: 10 year Premier League table
« Reply #65 on: December 31, 2013, 01:03:00 AM »
All the table shows is that we've been a midtable club for the last 10 years, on average, which is really any shock, our average finishing position in that time is 10th, if averaging 10th is a terminal decline then I clearly missed all the title challenges in the 90s.

The 90s were great. Things haven't been that great since 2000 though (apart from the O'Neill years).

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: 10 year Premier League table
« Reply #66 on: December 31, 2013, 01:05:52 AM »
We had three relegation battles in the 90s. Great times indeed.

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Re: 10 year Premier League table
« Reply #67 on: December 31, 2013, 01:07:09 AM »
We had three relegation battles in the 90s. Great times indeed.

And 2 runners up positions and 2 league cups. Stop being so negative for goodness sake.

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Re: 10 year Premier League table
« Reply #68 on: December 31, 2013, 01:11:39 AM »
Just thought it strange that someone so vociferous about relegation battles thought three of them in the 90s were great. Or did you mean part of the 90s were great?

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Re: 10 year Premier League table
« Reply #69 on: December 31, 2013, 01:19:50 AM »
Just thought it strange that someone so vociferous about relegation battles thought three of them in the 90s were great. Or did you mean part of the 90s were great?

We generally had really good teams back in the 90s with the occasional bad one. It was 2 relegation battles by the way, not 3. Is wasn't very often that we weren't at least a top 8 team.

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Re: 10 year Premier League table
« Reply #70 on: December 31, 2013, 01:23:25 AM »
He meant most of the 90's.

Relegation battles in 90/91 and 94/95. What was the third?

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: 10 year Premier League table
« Reply #71 on: December 31, 2013, 01:25:51 AM »
Three. We were in the shit when Gregory took us over in Feb.

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Re: 10 year Premier League table
« Reply #72 on: December 31, 2013, 01:31:34 AM »
Three. We were in the shit when Gregory took us over in Feb.

We finished 7th in '98. I defy anyone to claim finishing 7th is a relegation battle.
Are you being serious?

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: 10 year Premier League table
« Reply #73 on: December 31, 2013, 01:34:31 AM »
Three. We were in the shit when Gregory took us over in Feb.

We finished 7th in '98. I defy anyone to claim finishing 7th is a relegation battle.
Are you being serious?

So if we are 15th in feb and on a run of 1 win in 7 you won't be worried and call it a relegation battle?

And I'm pretty sure you class finishing 9th under GH as a relegation battle season.

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Re: 10 year Premier League table
« Reply #74 on: December 31, 2013, 01:37:42 AM »
Three. We were in the shit when Gregory took us over in Feb.

We finished 7th in '98. I defy anyone to claim finishing 7th is a relegation battle.
Are you being serious?

In that case presumably you wouldn't see 9th place under Houllier as us being in a relegation battle either then.

 


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