Quote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2013, 05:11:34 PMQuote from: Pat McMahon on December 30, 2013, 05:08:11 PMWe were very good at home for all my youth through to the mid 80s, particularly under Ron Saunders. In fact, under Saunders, Villa Park was pretty much a fortress. I grew up watching Villa being strong at home so find our home form of the past few years really galling. The facts say otherwise. From getting promoted to Saunders leaving we lost by my reckoning 25 home league games in just over 6 1/2 seasons. It's a good record but it's not a fortress.Dave, you intrigued me and made me doubt my memory so I thought I would look up the stats.You are right, it wasn't a fortress under Saunders but it was a bloody well guarded castle. In his 7.5 seasons by my reckoning we played 158 league games winning 93, drawing 40 and losing 25. So on average we lost 3.33 games per season (on average winning 12 and drawing 5). Even when we were relegated in 1970 we lost 6 games. This record must be better than anything since I reckon.
Quote from: Pat McMahon on December 30, 2013, 05:08:11 PMWe were very good at home for all my youth through to the mid 80s, particularly under Ron Saunders. In fact, under Saunders, Villa Park was pretty much a fortress. I grew up watching Villa being strong at home so find our home form of the past few years really galling. The facts say otherwise. From getting promoted to Saunders leaving we lost by my reckoning 25 home league games in just over 6 1/2 seasons. It's a good record but it's not a fortress.
We were very good at home for all my youth through to the mid 80s, particularly under Ron Saunders. In fact, under Saunders, Villa Park was pretty much a fortress. I grew up watching Villa being strong at home so find our home form of the past few years really galling.
A great day this has turned out to be. I'm suicidal, me mate tries to kill me, me gun gets nicked and we're still in fucking Bruges.
All the table shows is that we've been a midtable club for the last 10 years, on average, which is really any shock, our average finishing position in that time is 10th, if averaging 10th is a terminal decline then I clearly missed all the title challenges in the 90s.
We had three relegation battles in the 90s. Great times indeed.
Just thought it strange that someone so vociferous about relegation battles thought three of them in the 90s were great. Or did you mean part of the 90s were great?
Three. We were in the shit when Gregory took us over in Feb.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on December 31, 2013, 01:25:51 AMThree. We were in the shit when Gregory took us over in Feb. We finished 7th in '98. I defy anyone to claim finishing 7th is a relegation battle. Are you being serious?