10 year Premier League table

[Villa in Denmark]

Wasn't there also a second place under BFR in 92-93?

[Dave Cooper please]

Little managed a top 4 finish is 96 I think, but it was before the CL places went that far. Typical!! As for the way this thread has gone, pointless like the table itself.

So he did, sorry Sir Brian for my blasphemy.

[Dave Cooper please]

Wasn't there also a second place under BFR in 92-93?

And that one, I'm having a very bad day historically!

[Pat McMahon]

We were very good at home for all my youth through to the mid 80s, particularly under Ron Saunders. In fact, under Saunders, Villa Park was pretty much a fortress. I grew up watching Villa being strong at home so find our home form of the past few years really galling.
 

The facts say otherwise. From getting promoted to Saunders leaving we lost by my reckoning 25 home league games in just over 6 1/2 seasons. It's a good record but it's not a fortress.

Dave, you intrigued me and made me doubt my memory so I thought I would look up the stats.

You are right, it wasn't a fortress under Saunders but it was a bloody well guarded castle. In his 7.5 seasons by my reckoning we played 158 league games winning 93, drawing 40 and losing 25. So on average we lost 3.33 games per season (on average winning 12 and drawing 5). Even when we were relegated in 1970 we lost 6 games.

This record must be better than anything since I reckon.

[SoccerHQ]

Our home record was quite good under Little I think , regularly got 11 or 12 wins in a season and probably under Gregory aswell.

Just shows you though, we've won what 55 home games over that period and Spurs have won 100 odd so double!

And it's not like Spurs have always been chasing top 4 in that period, they had that crap period under Ramos.

[pauliewalnuts]

We've been in decline since the year 2000 in my opinion. If that's meaningless, fair enough, but the table that was posted sort of confirms it.
It wasn't me who started the thread by the way.

We may have been in decline since 2000 but we are still in the Premier League 13 years later. Not that great a decline then seeing as we were haven't finished in the top four since Taylor MKI.

There are many clubs who would take our decline over theirs.

Yes we are still in the PL after all these years but Lerner and co are taking serious risks with our Premier League status. When was the last time we were this bad for so long? Mid 80s? Maybe even further back.
Atkinson and Little got us in the top 4 by the way.

So, when you say "in decline for 13 years" what you really mean is "Lerner isn't spending enough".

They're two totally different things.

We certainly weren't in decline from 2006-2010, when we went from 11th to 6th three times in a row, were we?

In the 14 complete seasons since 2000, we have finished in the top six 5 times. I know we've not won anything, and the European Cup was 30 plus years ago, but that's hardly Leeds United style decline, is it?

I appreciate you make a lot of decent points about the state of affairs today, but then you go and spoil it with nonsense like this which just makes you look like a deliberate miserablist and blow your credibility.

You're like a scientist who does good work for the first six days of the week, but then spoils it on Sunday by telling everyone he's Jesus Christ returned to earth, and we all need to move to Belgium or we're all done for.

[PeterWithesShin]

We all have to move to Belgium? Fucking Bruges.

[pauliewalnuts]

Yes, saunders_heroes is Jesus Christ and he COMMANDS it.

[pauliewalnuts]

And not somewhere nice, like Bruges, either.

Somewhere fucking horrible. Charleroi, maybe.

[Monty]

'Decline' is too simplistic. We declined until 2006, raised up a bit and then declined a bit again.

Oh wait, sorry, we're in the Blue Square Premier and have had to change our name to Greggs Villa to stay afloat.

[Louzie0]

And not somewhere nice, like Bruges, either.

Somewhere fucking horrible. Charleroi, maybe.

Rather like the Grand Place.
Lovely coffee and portrait artists.

[PeterWithesShin]

Bruges has a racist dwarf, Chloe, and is like a fucking fairytale.

[Louzie0]

Bruges has a racist dwarf, Chloe, and is like a fucking fairytale.

I think I saw a waitress like that but I'm not sure

[Pat McMahon]

And not somewhere nice, like Bruges, either.

Somewhere fucking horrible. Charleroi, maybe.

Antwerp. Never forgiven them for 1975.

[saunders_heroes]

We've been in decline since the year 2000 in my opinion. If that's meaningless, fair enough, but the table that was posted sort of confirms it.
It wasn't me who started the thread by the way.

We may have been in decline since 2000 but we are still in the Premier League 13 years later. Not that great a decline then seeing as we were haven't finished in the top four since Taylor MKI.

There are many clubs who would take our decline over theirs.

Yes we are still in the PL after all these years but Lerner and co are taking serious risks with our Premier League status. When was the last time we were this bad for so long? Mid 80s? Maybe even further back.
Atkinson and Little got us in the top 4 by the way.

So, when you say "in decline for 13 years" what you really mean is "Lerner isn't spending enough".

They're two totally different things.

We certainly weren't in decline from 2006-2010, when we went from 11th to 6th three times in a row, were we?

In the 14 complete seasons since 2000, we have finished in the top six 5 times. I know we've not won anything, and the European Cup was 30 plus years ago, but that's hardly Leeds United style decline, is it?

I appreciate you make a lot of decent points about the state of affairs today, but then you go and spoil it with nonsense like this which just makes you look like a deliberate miserablist and blow your credibility.

You're like a scientist who does good work for the first six days of the week, but then spoils it on Sunday by telling everyone he's Jesus Christ returned to earth, and we all need to move to Belgium or we're all done for.

Have you been drinking?