Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread

[PeterWithesShin]

Ah it may well do. Thanks LFS.

[eastie]

Whilst I agree the performances recently have been far from acceptable, it appears there are a number of posters on here who are delighted with what is happening at the moment so they can vent their spleen at Lambert. Plus if you think that Clapping Weiman being subbed is going to help then you are sadly mistaken.

Nobody on here is delighted with what is happening - we all love the club are care deeply about the situation!

Try posting something positive for a change then

I will post it as I see it - I have never been short of praise when deserved .
This a forum to express opinion , not to have everyone agree with you.

Please don't come here saying people are delighted with the situation - nobody is!

[Ron Manager]

Not for the first time the team played reasonable football for the first 10 minutes or so, then completely forgot what they were supposed to be doing. I've never quite seen anything like it and I was around in the 1969-70 season. The difference is that today we do have some players who are at least capable of good football. The mystery is why they don't perform, it just seems that their confidence is completely shot.

In 1969/70 we had Bruce Rioch,Chico Hamilton,and Pat MacMahon. I think they were capable of very very good football.

This lot are uniformly abysmal.

[MarkM]

The miss by the Swansea bloke when he managed to head it down and over the bar in the first half was amusing. How he managed it from that close with a near open goal is a rare talent.

That seamed to be the point when the players lost there confidence, it was downhill from that point on

[VinnieChase84]

Lambert is talking shit. A few weeks ago he was talking about how confident he was that we wouldn't be involved in another relegation fight and now he wants to look 'up the table' (can't remember the exact quotes)
Now he's counting the points to the magical 40 point total for survival! Lamenting losing a couple of players to injury etc
Think he is beginning to unravel

[aj2k77]

The Villa team that beat Swansea last season.

Aston Villa
22 Guzan
04 Vlaar
06 Clark Booked
30 Lichaj Booked
34 Lowton Booked
07 Ireland (Westwood - 70' )
08 El Ahmadi
25 Bannan
09 Bent
14 Holman (N'Zogbia - 79' )
26 Weimann (Benteke - 71' )

£43 million quid on, is it any better this season?

[PeterWithesShin]

The Villa team that beat Swansea last season.

Aston Villa
22 Guzan
04 Vlaar
06 Clark Booked
30 Lichaj Booked
34 Lowton Booked
07 Ireland (Westwood - 70' )
08 El Ahmadi
25 Bannan
09 Bent
14 Holman (N'Zogbia - 79' )
26 Weimann (Benteke - 71' )

£43 million quid on, is it any better this season?

We haven't spent £43m since then.

[CT]

I was marvelling at how quickly we gave away possession and then how easily Swansea held onto it - and I don't even think they were really firing on all cylinders.

I nearly, NEARLY, walked on 65 minutes when Ciaran Clark just whacked the ball high and long when he had time and space - I always thought there was a potential midfielder there - it's just mind numbing how bad so many of them have become.

Lack of movement at throw ins, everyone back at corners - nothing new today, but this is really going to start costing us soon.

[Ron Manager]

Well we missed the first ten minutes and our goal (car problems) but its hard to be positive when you dont see anything to be positive about.

I suppose getting a point rather than no points is a positive. And that fellow posters is about it.

[Billy Walker]

Lambert is talking shit. A few weeks ago he was talking about how confident he was that we wouldn't be involved in another relegation fight and now he wants to look 'up the table' (can't remember the exact quotes)
Now he's counting the points to the magical 40 point total for survival! Lamenting losing a couple of players to injury etc
Think he is beginning to unravel

No, he's not unravelling, he's simply managing a football club and trying to keep things upbeat and positive.  It's what good managers do.

[aj2k77]

Whilst I agree the performances recently have been far from acceptable, it appears there are a number of posters on here who are delighted with what is happening at the moment so they can vent their spleen at Lambert. Plus if you think that Clapping Weiman being subbed is going to help then you are sadly mistaken.

Nobody on here is delighted with what is happening - we all love the club are care deeply about the situation!

Try posting something positive for a change then

The crowd sounded fantastic second half. Hats off to everyone there today.

[aj2k77]

The Villa team that beat Swansea last season.

Aston Villa
22 Guzan
04 Vlaar
06 Clark Booked
30 Lichaj Booked
34 Lowton Booked
07 Ireland (Westwood - 70' )
08 El Ahmadi
25 Bannan
09 Bent
14 Holman (N'Zogbia - 79' )
26 Weimann (Benteke - 71' )

£43 million quid on, is it any better this season?

We haven't spent £43m since then.

He's spent that amount since he joined. There's about £7.5m of it in that team there so maybe I should rephrase it then. £35.5m spent is the team any better than that one there?

[adrenachrome]

The miss by the Swansea bloke when he managed to head it down and over the bar in the first half was amusing. How he managed it from that close with a near open goal is a rare talent.

That seamed to be the point when the players lost there confidence, it was downhill from that point on

Yeah, that happened on Thursday as well; we started brightly but Puncheon completely skinned Lowton,  did it again a few minutes later, and then their other winger came over to join in the fun and the confidence and shape drifted away. To be fair to PL, he tried to address that today by providing more protection for Lowton and Luna.

[PeterWithesShin]

The Villa team that beat Swansea last season.

Aston Villa
22 Guzan
04 Vlaar
06 Clark Booked
30 Lichaj Booked
34 Lowton Booked
07 Ireland (Westwood - 70' )
08 El Ahmadi
25 Bannan
09 Bent
14 Holman (N'Zogbia - 79' )
26 Weimann (Benteke - 71' )

£43 million quid on, is it any better this season?

We haven't spent £43m since then.

He's spent that amount since he joined. There's about £7.5m of it in that team there so maybe I should rephrase it then. £35.5m spent is the team any better than that one there?

He bought 5 of those players. Six if you include Guzan. That game was after the transfer window closed last season.

[Keeno]

Possession is over-rated people are saying again? I've got hammered for going on about this before but look at all the great sides around Europe. They are decent passing sides who try to keep the ball.

Yes, teams like villa can play good on the counter and nab five or six smash 'n grabs a season but we really should be looking to develop a style of play centred around better use of the ball and better ball retention. Instead we give it away and invite excessive pressure on a backline which is fragile.

I sometimes think the whole culture of the club, terraces to pitch, needs to change.

This is absolutely bang on. Yes, Swans didn't have the cutting edge to make better use of the ball they had, but they were missing arguably their two best offensive players in Dyer and Michu today. No one is suggesting we have to adopt a Spanish model of suffocating teams with possession, but like Irish says the best teams in the PL and Europe have a style that is centred around controlling the ball, and thus the game. Most if not all also have an identity, a game plan that stems predominantly from the manager - the strides Everton have made under Martinez (a man we could possibly have captured not too long ago) this season is a great example of how a CLEAR footballing philosophy, coming from an intelligent and astute manager, can enhance a side with not too many big names (obviously one or two exceptions, Barkley, Lukaku, Deulofeu etc.)

Now I thought that when PL took over we might look to develop a philosophy, a way of playing, that we could carry through matches against any side, and over time with young, impressionable players mould a side capable of doing damage at the right end of the league. There have been times when we've seen this, pressing high, breaking fast, and playing football not too bad on the eye. But today, with aimless hoofs ANYWHERE on the pitch, marked a complete regression in our development as a team... Westy and Delph were none-existent today, and a lot of our team were taught how to play football by Swansea's midfield, constantly wanting the ball, not panicking and moving intelligently. On another day they could've had 3 or 4.

The team need a clear mentality and game plan, and this all stems from the coaching staff. They also need someone to instill some confidence in them, because too many went missing today. Is Lambert the right man to do this and take us forward?