Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread

[Malandro]

Unfortunately stats do mean something Paul. Our possession stats are why most of the time we get beat.

This is the crux of it. I was astounded when Everton came to VP on the opening day the other year - we were completely smashed and it hasn't been the odd game since, its been the majority.

I have never, ever seen a Villa team this bad (I'm only 37, so didn't see relegation) Without Vlaar and Benteke we are probably the weakest side in the division.

[Monty]

When people say 'the players are all Championship standard' then give a list of quite a few good players we have (in which they leave out players who have done well in the past), they're really saying that 'we have good players, the coaching's just inadequate.'

I'm not sure. Maybe if they were better coached they would look more convincing, but let's put it this way: if we were to find ourselves in the Championship next season, with that squad, do you think we would dominate the division? I don't.

It's fine for a Premier League side to have a few players like that in its squad, but we simply have far too many, and not enough confirmed talent.

Again, if we had a better manager I thought we would.

In general, Lambert has just said 'I knew the first few years would be tough.' Sorry, I thought he said that about just the first year, now he's telling us that there's more of this next season? Fuck me, we might as well give up then.

[Stu]

I would like posters to say something other than "same old shit". Swansea are a good team and in context of where we are now this is a good result. We just need to get some confidence back into out team.

Sorry me old mate, but Sunderland last year aside, I can't remember a single dominant home performance since he came here. Even when we win we are generally outposessed and win by a solitary goal desperately clinging on by our fingernails for the last ten minutes.

Cardiff at home this season; after we scored their arses fell out of it.

I'm honestly not trying to be a smart arse but we we're actually outposessed 56-44 in that one too. From what I remember, we only looked safe when we got the second....with 6 minutes left.

Fair enough, it's only my opinion as well. I remember we matched them until Lambert moved Bacuna into midfield ahead of Lowton, and we started to worry them. Got the free-kick and basically went on from there. It felt like only a matter of time until we got the second as well, and I haven't felt like that for a while.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Unfortunately stats do mean something Paul. Our possession stats are why most of the time we get beat.

This is the crux of it. I was astounded when Everton came to VP on the opening day the other year - we were completely smashed and it hasn't been the odd game since, its been the majority.

I have never, ever seen a Villa team this bad (I'm only 37, so didn't see relegation) Without Vlaar and Benteke we are probably the weakest side in the division.

Sadly true. I was there for that game. You could see the gap between the sides. That gap has seemingly widened this season.

[eastie]

I can't help but think that when your assistant starts trading insults with fans, and you start coming out with stuff like that interview tonight, we are approaching the beginning of the end.

Hope so. Just can't see him being given the boot. Even if we lose every game until Feb I can't see him going :-(
Liverpool and Arsenal are going to have a field day.
Sunderland will see it as must win

Sadly this i think is the situation - I cannot see randy firing him and I think survival is maybe the ambition , randy probably looks at the table sees us in 13th place and is maybe satisfied with things.

I can't see Faulkner playing a role in any sacking either as if he has been involved in recruiting players and managers  it would not look good on him to see another of his choices fail in the job.

I expect us to lose to sunderland , arsenal and Liverpool and concede a lot of goals in those games but I doubt very much that lambert will go even then and that saddens me .

[Fin Feds Dad]

Lack of movement comes from too many players hiding for me.

Best bloke on the pitch by a country mile was their number 21 , Jose Canas . He was superb.

[London Villan]

At what point in the project will our players learn to take a throw-in, or a free kick in the middle of the pitch without giving it back to the opposition, or be within 20 yards of the big target man, or stay close enough to a winger that you are able to challenge them...

[Malandro]

O'neill's choice of full backs may have been more than odd, but that has nothing on Lambert buying Kozak and Helenius if we are short of money

[Fin Feds Dad]

Or switch on at a short corner .....

[mr underhill]

murphy implied before kick off that Lambert was fire proof, management were 100% behind the guy, and were determined to buck the trend of hiring and firing. No question of him being shown the door anytime soon.

[Stu]

At what point in the project will our players learn to take a throw-in, or a free kick in the middle of the pitch without giving it back to the opposition...

My gf and I have a running joke with throw-ins; we're pretty certain that villa still haven't made more than two passes from a throw-in until we concede possession all season.

[London Villan]

Or switch on at a short corner .....

Oh come on, that only happened three times today...

[Monty]

The point about the style of play is really important. An oft-cited criterion for sacking Eck was that Villa deserved a 'compelling' style of play. If this is compelling then Lerner must be watching the wrong sport.

[PeterWithesShin]

Or switch on at a short corner .....

Oh come on, that only happened three times today...

We bring every player back to defend corners and they still manage to the the piss with those short corners. I really do wonder at times.

[Des Little]

These home games really are turgid, aren't they? Passing, possession and tactics once again defy belief. If we stay up this season on this form I will be amazed.