Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread

[dicedlam]

But the team are playing poorly.  We look like a relegation side at the moment.

The team are not playing poorly. They are just very poor players.

[oldtimernow]

dreadful , it sounded like we were the away team

[mr woo]

Yep.

Same old shit.

Building something? I don't think so.

No doubt Lambert will laud the effort. Bollocks. There isn't any.

Collectively poor in possession. Eternally powderpuff in midfield, once again naive in defence.

Chasing shadows, men against boys.

Team selection and substitutions are irrelevent, we don't have any quality that could make a difference.

I've never seen a Villa side so devoid of ideas, as unpassionate, as slip shod and as bedraggled as this one is, week after week after week after week.

If you add Benteke, Vlaar, Okore and NZogbia to this side, plus whatever we can get in January, we might survive but please please don't kid me everything's fine and we're on a fantastical journey back to the big time.

I've been watching football just as long as you have Mr Lambert. I'm not an idiot.

If it looks like shit and smells like shit......

[ozzjim]

I don't buy this poor players stuff. Westwood coached by Laudrup would be in the Swansea side, the difference being those around him would move and allow him to pass and move, not just have to hit space. Lowton is a decent player, so is Bacuna, but there is something really amiss with the coaching and movement

[Monty]

I don't buy this poor players stuff. Westwood coached by Laudrup would be in the Swansea side, the difference being those around him would move and allow him to pass and move, not just have to hit space. Lowton is a decent player, so is Bacuna, but there is something really amiss with the coaching and movement

This is my view. We've seen these players play well - something has got worse over time.

[N'Zimidy]

20 points after 19 games?

Not nearly good enough. Especially when there are 10 dire teams other than us in the league. I don't trust Lambert either tactically or in the transfer market to turn this sinking ship around.

Are there?  I'm not sure over the last 10 games on current form if there are 3 worse teams , never mind 10.

Didn't say they're worse than us, but there are 10 other really poor teams in the league this season and if we didn't have a wally in charge we would (and should) be comfortably in the top half this season like Southampton.

[supertom]

20 points after 19 games?

Not nearly good enough. Especially when there are 10 dire teams other than us in the league. I don't trust Lambert either tactically or in the transfer market to turn this sinking ship around.

Are there?  I'm not sure over the last 10 games on current form if there are 3 worse teams , never mind 10.

I'm just glad Fulham got royally twotted today. They've look marginally better under the new man, but they got destroyed today. I think barring some good signings, they'll struggle to beat the drop.
We'll see what Poyet brings to the table in the next game.

[VillaAlways]

HOW is this acceptable?!!!

It is not. Randy, do something about it please.

Don't hold your breath.

[aev]

I don't buy this poor players stuff. Westwood coached by Laudrup would be in the Swansea side, the difference being those around him would move and allow him to pass and move, not just have to hit space. Lowton is a decent player, so is Bacuna, but there is something really amiss with the coaching and movement

This is my view. We've seen these players play well - something has got worse over time.

Same for me - I would settle for  steady progress but all I can see is regression.

[eastie]

Who did the players run to celebrate the goal with ?
Are these players playing for the manager or has he lost the dressing room - the spirit seems to have gone.

[pooligan]

Villa 27%  Swansea 73%   possession  in a home match .Embarrassing

[Matt Collins]

But the team are playing poorly.  We look like a relegation side at the moment.

The team are not playing poorly. They are just very poor players.

Are they playing worse than they were in the last third of last season? Yes, they undeniably are. So they are capable of more. Not enough to be a good top half team, they just fundamentally aren't good enough as a group. But player for player are they fundamentally worse than Hull? What would you think if we brought in: Rosenior, Chester, Elmohamady, Sagbo, Koren or Boyd this winter? I think we'd all say they weren't good enough and were worse than what we have (or certainly no better).

[Chipsticks]

It really is incredible that Lambert is still in a job.

Its because our board have recognised that building an entirely new squad requires longer than a few months and that knee-jerk reactions may do well short term but ultimately get you nowhere.

Good point, glad to see Gabby scoring one-on-ones again.

[Summers]

Decent point, but absolutely terrible performance.

Gutless, clueless, useless.

[olaftab]

I would like posters to say something other than "same old shit". Swansea are a good team and in context of where we are now this is a good result. We just need to get some confidence back into out team.