Lambert OUT

[ozzjim]

I might just start banning people who choose to ignore polite requests from us.

Maybe they think that they can get away with it as they did with the previous manager.

Maybe they did, but neither deserve it so rather than taking pots at the running of the site just be thankful we are trying to not let it happen this.

[sirlordbaltimore]

The counter to that is we blew a wedge in the previous January on Bent and Makoun. And anyway, the point I was making was that, regardless of the budget, it isnt the chairman that signs the players.

Very true, but the funds he frees up does dictate the players the manager can sign. Not that that's any excuse for buying utter shit

[saunders_heroes]

Some very interesting comments on the Villa Facebook pages by some bloke called Dennis Jones in the last 12 hours. Stuff about Lerner bordering on defamatory but worrying if true

What has been said?

[sirlordbaltimore]

When a new manager inevitably comes in, we'll soon see what Lambert has been building.

This 'building for the future' bullshit will be exposed once and for all as the charade that it is. A handful at best of this lot will be kept on which spells it out clearly

[rob_bridge]

Some very interesting comments on the Villa Facebook pages by some bloke called Dennis Jones in the last 12 hours. Stuff about Lerner bordering on defamatory but worrying if true

What has been said?

You can view yourself with a FB account. Mr Jones is very angry but probably needs a good solicitor.

[sirlordbaltimore]

Some very interesting comments on the Villa Facebook pages by some bloke called Dennis Jones in the last 12 hours. Stuff about Lerner bordering on defamatory but worrying if true

What has been said?

You can view yourself with a FB account. Mr Jones is very angry but probably needs a good solicitor.

Where am i supposed to be looking on Facebook ?

[Walmley_Villa]

Some very interesting comments on the Villa Facebook pages by some bloke called Dennis Jones in the last 12 hours. Stuff about Lerner bordering on defamatory but worrying if true

Just had a look, not a fan of Lerner is he? Talks of a £20k a week wage ceiling, only money for a loan signing in January as Lambert had to spend the Jan budget in the Summer to get bodies in. Suggests that we are paying for the divorce, Randy drops his pants a lot and has no tattoo....

IF the wage ceiling is that (and would explain a few things regarding signings) we are truly f#cked.

[Chico Hamilton III]

I've had enough. He can take his project, his work in progress, his young and hungry no-marks and his long ball clueless shit and fuck off. We're no further along the road than we were this time last year. Losing to Palace at home - he should be apologising.

We are an absolutely shit team

[Matt Collins]

Some very interesting comments on the Villa Facebook pages by some bloke called Dennis Jones in the last 12 hours. Stuff about Lerner bordering on defamatory but worrying if true

Just had a look, not a fan of Lerner is he? Talks of a £20k a week wage ceiling, only money for a loan signing in January as Lambert had to spend the Jan budget in the Summer to get bodies in. Suggests that we are paying for the divorce, Randy drops his pants a lot and has no tattoo....

IF the wage ceiling is that (and would explain a few things regarding signings) we are truly f#cked.

Remind me what wage we signed benteke onto this summer

[sirlordbaltimore]

Remind me what wage we signed benteke onto this summer

I'm pretty sure no one knows the answer to that

[eastie]

Just had a look, not a fan of Lerner is he? Talks of a £20k a week wage ceiling, only money for a loan signing in January as Lambert had to spend the Jan budget in the Summer to get bodies in. Suggests that we are paying for the divorce, Randy drops his pants a lot and has no tattoo....

IF the wage ceiling is that (and would explain a few things regarding signings) we are truly f#cked.

If that was the case how come benteke was given a vastly improved deal - don't believe this £20k stuff at all.

[historian]

We are certainly in a mess.

We have a board with no real football experience (other than that gained "on the job"). We have a board from whom we never hear (other than platitudes and general "we are going in the right direction" state of the union-type addresses). For me, Mr Lerner has done some good things for the club and PF seems to be doing a good job on the commercial side, but we are a FOOTBALL club as well; we need football knowledge and football savvy.  The loss of Mr Stride (and a failure to replace) was a big one. The transfer strategy has been miscalculated; we have gone (as others have said on here) from A to C without going via B.

We have a manager who seems to have no clear tactics, playing philosophy, no clear team selection philosophy and now no clear connection with the fans. That disconnect with the fans might be the tipping point; there is usually no way back from it.

We have a bunch of players who are, as a group, inexperienced and lacking confidence. The group is also in my view unbalanced and there are too many out of form players.  Last year, PL said he wanted young hungry players; Clark, Baker, Lowton, Westwood, Benteke responded. The new contracts signed in the summer, they have failed to replicate last years performances. Some of the new signings are struggling to "settle"; Messrs Luna and Tonev spring to mind.

Putting it all together, we are standing, as the saying goes, on the edge of a cliff. We need clear leadership both from the board and from the manager, and also from the experienced players.  The likes of Gabby have to be loud and strong; yesterday, he seemed content to hide when he should be grabbing the younger players and guiding the team.  Being a captain is more than just an armband.

Something has to change on the field, but can it happen by retaining the status quo?? We tried to pick "our" team in the car before the game yesterday; we couldn't. That was really because our squad is lacking balance. Yes, the injuries have hindered us, but then every club has injuries. It comes back to the need to change something. Yesterday, I said there were no obvious alternatives to PL; after yesterday, I am not sure that there is no alternative, but to change PL. The question is, will Mr Lerner agree to spend yet more money rectifying the situation??

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Please not Hoddle. He would only bang on about what a bastard I was in a previous life.

And all those at Acorns.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Especially if the alternatives are Hoddle and OGS. I'd rather Martin Laursen got the job than either of those two but again you'd be asking a lot from him to sort this out.

Oh for a Martin Laursen in our defence now. Leader, fighter, footballer, all the things we're lacking. I could have wept when I looked at yesterday's defensive line up - Lowton, Clark, Baker, Luna? I ask you to name a worse back four in the history of Aston Villa.

You mean Vlaar? He's injured.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

I think a manager should be given a good few years before deciding on whether or not a change is needed.

However, during that period you would like to see the team have a plan as to how they will play. If it's not quite working, then fair enough, but at least the manager and players have something to work towards.

Unfortunately, we don't have any plan whatsoever and nobody seems to know what is going on.

I'm torn between sacking and keeping.