Lambert OUT

[eastie]

I think we all need to calm the fuck down.

Surely people are entitled to voice their concerns or support ?

[Damo70]

I think the vast majority on here are keeping calm. Worried, unhappy and relatively calm under the circumstances.

[LeeB]

Now, I know we're all entitled to our views and all that, and I'm certainly not a mod laying down the law because obviously there should be no such law, but why do some have to be so personally insulting to the bloke? N'Zimidy, why do you call him 'Mr. Mumbles' when he grew up in rougher part of the world than you could believe where they spoke a certain way, which is why he talks like he does? You can criticise him all you like and everything is fair game, but such personal vitriol is, to my mind, hateful, mean-spirited and totally the opposite of what I believe our club stands for. It's only football and he's doing his best, for God's sake, and even if that best isn't good enough that's no reason to hate on him so much. It was out of order for McLeish and it's out of order now.

It does my swede in too.

[Villafirst]

It need root & branch change. Not only has Lamberts time run it's course but so has Lerner's. The last 4 seasons have been hell particularly the home form. ST holders like me have been robbed. Doug would've been slaughtered for the last 4 yrsrs. Lerner deserves some criticism - HE appoints the managers.

[Monty]

It need root & branch change. Not only has Lamberts time run it's course but so has Lerner's. The last 4 seasons have been hell particularly the home form. ST holders like me have been robbed. Doug would've been slaughtered for the last 4 yrsrs. Lerner deserves some criticism - HE appoints the managers.

You write that as if Lerner has never been criticised. I don't know if even Doug's appointments were ever as criticised as McLeish's was, along with the infamous 'Premier League experience' criterion.

[Dante Lavelli]

Now, I know we're all entitled to our views and all that, and I'm certainly not a mod laying down the law because obviously there should be no such law, but why do some have to be so personally insulting to the bloke? N'Zimidy, why do you call him 'Mr. Mumbles' when he grew up in rougher part of the world than you could believe where they spoke a certain way, which is why he talks like he does? You can criticise him all you like and everything is fair game, but such personal vitriol is, to my mind, hateful, mean-spirited and totally the opposite of what I believe our club stands for. It's only football and he's doing his best, for God's sake, and even if that best isn't good enough that's no reason to hate on him so much. It was out of order for McLeish and it's out of order now.

It does my swede in too.

Well said.  I'm not a mod either but I don't think it's unfair or out of line to encourage people to try and make any criticism constructive in order to add something to the debate rather than repeating the same things.

[mike]

Now, I know we're all entitled to our views and all that, and I'm certainly not a mod laying down the law because obviously there should be no such law, but why do some have to be so personally insulting to the bloke? N'Zimidy, why do you call him 'Mr. Mumbles' when he grew up in rougher part of the world than you could believe where they spoke a certain way, which is why he talks like he does? You can criticise him all you like and everything is fair game, but such personal vitriol is, to my mind, hateful, mean-spirited and totally the opposite of what I believe our club stands for. It's only football and he's doing his best, for God's sake, and even if that best isn't good enough that's no reason to hate on him so much. It was out of order for McLeish and it's out of order now.

It does my swede in too.

I know people who come from Glasgow who don't mumble. I come from a shit hole in Birmingham and I don't mumble. I think he's calling him Mr Mumbles because he mumbles, not because he's judging his social background. I also think communication skills and ability to project himself are relevant to Lambert's job.

[midnite]

I think the problem lies above lambert. It's not necessarily Lerner or Faulkner either. I don't know what it is. Whether it's not having football people on the board or not is another thing. But I don't think the problem entirely lies at lamberts feet.

[Dante Lavelli]

I'm done with Lambert, doesn't seem to have a plan be and looks lost at times. A risk that didn't pay off, I don't hate him, just not right for our great club.  time to get someone with a bit of football nous on the board and a more tactically aware manager.

I wonder if its time to go down the director of football route with an experienced man and a younger team coach under him .
In a way its sad houllier had health issues as I felt he would have made a good director of football but wasnt the man to be in charge of coaching.

To be honest I've wanted this system in place for a while.  Imo there needs to be a structure above 'lambert' so when the coaching gets stale or the coach proves himself not to be up to it (or too good and gets poached) there can be a change which doesn't suddenly change the whole style/philosophy of the club.  It'd invariably mean a higher churn of head coaches but each will bring their own ideas and a freshness.

For example there's that school teacher who has worked himself up to #2 at Real Madrid who I'd love to see as head coach, but you can't pluck a guy like that from nowhere (management wise) and expect him to run a club the size of Villa.  You could bet that he'd be a good coach though.

[Monty]

Now, I know we're all entitled to our views and all that, and I'm certainly not a mod laying down the law because obviously there should be no such law, but why do some have to be so personally insulting to the bloke? N'Zimidy, why do you call him 'Mr. Mumbles' when he grew up in rougher part of the world than you could believe where they spoke a certain way, which is why he talks like he does? You can criticise him all you like and everything is fair game, but such personal vitriol is, to my mind, hateful, mean-spirited and totally the opposite of what I believe our club stands for. It's only football and he's doing his best, for God's sake, and even if that best isn't good enough that's no reason to hate on him so much. It was out of order for McLeish and it's out of order now.

It does my swede in too.

I know people who come from Glasgow who don't mumble. I come from a shit hole in Birmingham and I don't mumble. I think he's calling him Mr Mumbles because he mumbles, not because he's judging his social background. I also think communication skills and ability to project himself are relevant to Lambert's job.

Glasgow's huge. I have friends who come from Italy who aren't mafiosi, but there are mafiosi in Italy. And people from different parts of different towns speak differently - I have quite a few friends from Coatbridge, for example, who speak in a manner you would no doubt call mumbling. It's unfair, snobbish, personally insulting and not as relevant as you think - I mean, it's not like he's Juande Ramos, floundering around with or without a translator.

[eric woolban woolban]

SGT need to come back on board (of directors) to bring a sense of decorum to the hierarchy.

[Des Little]

Regardless of where he's from, the bloke is making a dog's arse of this club and he had better improve the situ sooner rather than later.  That is his team, they're his players and they're spiralling down the league at an alarming rate. Time to pull your finger our, Mr Lambert.

[Fergal]

I don't think it matters who the manager is, if you don't buy premiership players you will struggle.  If you buy the sort of players we have you will eventually go down.
There is only one person to blame for the state of the club and that is Randy.

[Des Little]

Lambert chose the players, and he sets them out. Randy may be guilty of being aloof but the players, tactics and application is the manager's job. And it's failing.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but he has to go.

It's not the players, it's him, he portrays a man who really hasn't got a clue and that's reflecting through the players now.

Albrighton has been great since coming back, how long before Lambert gets through to him and makes him worse?

We have no plan, no vision and no leadership.

I haven't a clue who to come in, but we can't even get the basics right, which is down to Lambert.

Summed up perfectly, Shrek. I like Lambert, the only problem is I hate his football. Giving him money in January will only delay the cure.