Aston Villa v Crystal Palace Post-Match Thread

[baddowvillans]

If there is the slightest possibility that PL would be sacked for losing the next two games he should lose his job now. With him as manager we WILL lose both. I am also in the camp of it's not for us to have to say who would do a better job but recognise that the job being done is not good enough. Three transfer windows, his team, his tactics. Even with the tight financial constraints it's not good enough

[Tony Erdington]

I thought we were on the slide, and I gave us 2 to 3 seasons to go, but as a lot have pointed out we are loosing to poor teams, at best palace are a championship team, and they were shit yesterday, but I could see within the first half hour, their confidence growing because they saw this as a chance of an away win

So if we go down, our ground to a lot of clubs in the championship is going to be biggest ground they've ever played on, so again I think we will be there a while until someone comes in and quotes things like Proud history Bright future bolox.


 the game now more then ever , is about investment and the understanding that you aint going to make money out of it as an owner that is. So randy has tried to do it, comparatively on the cheap, being stung by o'neil when he first came, but he appoints managers and gives them little money and the mantra of reduce the wage bill.

as I said in a previous post the writings on the wall.

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[brian green]

Tony your post is a bit lumpy but all the points you make are exactly correct especially the part about understanding by an owner that they are not going to make money out of a football club and that the levels of investment have to be very high.

[silhillvilla]

Take the CiŁy home game out and we have scored 3 in 9 at home !! Sweet fucking Jesus !! We are down unless this clown and his cronies are removed !!

[eastie]

Take the CiŁy home game out and we have scored 3 in 9 at home !! Sweet fucking Jesus !! We are down unless this clown and his cronies are removed !!

May I enquire as to which clown you are referring?

[olaftab]

Anyway putting aside our team's performance issues some of our fans didn't do themselves proud yesterday. Why was Barry Bannan booed specially by lower Witton End in the second half? Maybe it's to do with the fact that likes of Young and Barry were booed on their return but do some people not understand the difference? Barry is from our youth set up and we sold him. The lad is trying to resurrect his career at Palace and we should wish him well in that not moronically boo him because he is our ex player.

[brian green]

BB has gone to a club where he is held in high regard and will play well for them.   I wish him well in his future career.   He was the best player on the pitch yesterday.

[olaftab]

Take the CiŁy home game out and we have scored 3 in 9 at home !! Sweet fucking Jesus !! We are down unless this clown and his cronies are removed !!

I know its not great but why take out a game? Take the Cardiff game out as well if it pleases you?

[Legion]

New song to the tune of 'Nigel Spink, he rolls the ball to Platty':-

Nathan Baker, he passes the ball to Clarky,
Clarky turns around and passes the ball to Lowton.
Lowton takes two steps forward and passes to El Ahmadi.
El Ahmadi turns to face his goal….. and passes the ball back to Baker.   

Repeat until fall asleep.

Somehow, I don't think we'll be singing this version in 25 years time.

Excellent.

[eastie]

BB has gone to a club where he is held in high regard and will play well for them.   I wish him well in his future career.   He was the best player on the pitch yesterday.

I thought bolaise was the best player on the pitch but BB did play well.

[Clampy]

Anyway putting aside our team's performance issues some of our fans didn't do themselves proud yesterday. Why was Barry Bannan booed specially by lower Witton End in the second half?

I clapped him when he went off. The booing was ridiculous.

[Bottom Right 89]

I have seen some shit in my 30 odd Villa supporting years but yesterday ranks as one of the worst displays I have ever seen. It was an embarassment, we got what we deserved and to be honest a better team would have had 3 or 4 if it had not been for Guzan. I am starting to think a better team will come in for Guzan in the Summer and then we'll be totally fucked.

What summed it up for me was during the second half we tried to gather a bit of momentum, had a couple of corners got the Holte End on their feet, then the ball went back to Baker just inside the palace half he looked up to see what was on and then just punted the ball straight to their keeper. This type of football is not good enough at any level of the game so to then read Ian Culverhouse swore at supporters who showed their frustration at the end really boils my piss.

Another complete mystery to me is what has happened to Matt Lowton? I was tipping this guy for the World Cup squad at the end of last season, he couldn't pass it 5 yards yesterday in stark contrast to Barry Bannan, pity he couldn't have showed a bit more like that in a Villa shirt he'd still be here.

[eastie]

Lowton, Weimann, Westwood - all rewarded in the summer with pay rises and new deals and all have been woeful this season - it really is very disappointing.

[andyh]

Playing the game at walking pace, this is one of our biggest problems, in my opinion.
We do this all along the back line. This is because there is little or no movement from the players in front on the ball. Consequently, the player in possession has nowhere to go and no one free to pass to. More often than not its a midfielder who drops very deep to take a pass, merely to knock it back to the same defender !
This is where the manager/coach earns their corn.
What is the manager/coach telling the players ? 
Where is the movement ?
Where is the pace ?
Where are the runs into space or the runs to pull opposition players out of position to make room for others to exploit that space ?
Where is the confidence and bravery for one of our midfilders (or defenders) to run at the opposition with pace and make things happen?

This constant sideways passing along the back line, or short into a midfileder facing his own goal does not make us 'Arsenalesque'.
All it does is give the other team time to regroup, get every man behind the ball and stifle us.

Movement,movement,movement - that is where we need to improve, big time.
 
 
   

[Morten]

When you go through all 18 games this season, how many have we actually deserved to win ? 2 or 3 perhaps ? That is shocking. I cannot think of a game that we have controlled and won comfortably, it really is alarming