Aston Villa v Crystal Palace Post-Match Thread

[brian green]

Damon summed it up very neatly when we walked back to our cars today.   He compared the feelings brought on by that game to the feelings you have when you are about to be sick.   You don't want to be sick, you tell yourself you are not going to be sick but up it comes.   Likewise the feelings about the manager.   You don't want him to go, you don't think he should go but ultimately he has to go.   We are so bad and getting worse so fast it has become inevitable.

[adrenachrome]

Within minutes of a fairly bright start by us, Lowton was skinned by their No. 13. Shortly afterwards he did it again. Then their No. 7 came across to have a (successful) go. This was before they started probing Luna's deficiencies on the other side of the defence.

The fact is, that without Vlaar, the wheels have fallen off. I still maintain that with a fit Okore and Vlaar, things would have been considerably different in all areas of the pitch. But that is conjecture, and the fact that this is yet another home display to be filed under the inexorably expanding "unmitigated shit" category.

As a battle hardened veteran of our descent to the old Div 3, I am ashamed to say I have had enough, and will attend no more games this season. I will use the money to upgrade my membership at Edgbaston, where at least they seem to have an inkling of a fucking clue.

[silhillvilla]

A positive, we had 65% possession today. Didn't seem it but that's what the bbc says.

[walsall villain]

A positive, we had 65% possession today. Didn't seem it but that's what the bbc says.

Most of it in our own half

[rob_bridge]

Damon summed it up very neatly when we walked back to our cars today.   He compared the feelings brought on by that game to the feelings you have when you are about to be sick.   You don't want to be sick, you tell yourself you are not going to be sick but up it comes.   Likewise the feelings about the manager.   You don't want him to go, you don't think he should go but ultimately he has to go.   We are so bad and getting worse so fast it has become inevitable.

Whether the board act or not I feel we may be approaching the end game for PL. The supposed Culverhouse action towards fans is unacceptable. Once fans turn in different ways - e.g. Spuds with AVB, Ince at Blackburn, us v TSM at home to Bolton, Liverpool with 10k stay aways under Woy and Di Canio and his ludicrous actions v Albyion it is normally terminal.

[silhillvilla]

Agree, I'd say lambert has lost the fans now aswell as the dressing room. Bye.

[baddowvillans]

Looking forward to reading what the Lambert apologists made of today. For me in a must win game I thought the first 45 minutes were among the worst in terms of effort and invention I have witnessed in 20 years at VP. We sat too deep and were second best to a poor Palace side. When we need inspiration we got Bowery. God help us. The consensus was we need 4 pointd from the Christmas fixtures - oooops. I still dont think Lambert  will go but on todays performance I cant see us winning another game. I always thought there were at least three sides worse than us but now im not so sure. Clueless manager and inadequate team.

[PaulWinch again]

I think time is up and it's a shame because at the start he had the right ideals but I don't know what's happened to them. It's all crumbling and falling apart.

[itbrvilla]

No doubt the "In Lambert we trust brigade " brigade will mock me for saying it,but saying it i will If this manager stays in charge ,there is every chance we could do a Wolves and be in League 1 after next season

I agree, we have absolutely no quality apart from 4 players who are performing shit to average at best (except Guzan).

[caster troy]

There were some moments today where I had to laugh at how bad we were, or I'd have cried.

Without Vlaar we just look like a pub team with an awesome goalie.

I am dreading Swansea, as I've dreaded most home games for the last three years.

On the plus side I bet on an opposition clean sheet every time so I'm quids in this season.

[London Villan]

A positive, we had 65% possession today. Didn't seem it but that's what the bbc says.

We know what Lambert thinks about those stats... "the only one that counts is the score"...indeed

[taylorsworkrate]

Unfortunately, it is true.

Then he simply has to go. Even a grovelling apology is not enough to redeem that sort of behaviour.

[AlexAlexCropley]

Unfortunately, it is true.

Then he simply has to go. Even a grovelling apology is not enough to redeem that sort of behaviour.

Anyone see Weimann's actions to the crowd? Hearing some rumours

[Mortimer's Bear]

Unfortunately, it is true.

Then he simply has to go. Even a grovelling apology is not enough to redeem that sort of behaviour.

Indeed

[David_Nab]

Worth noting Fulham ,Sunderland and Palace all won today and all changed managers after poor starts.Sometimes the manager needs time with Fergie turning it round at United often used as an example of patience and other times the guy in charge is useless and needs to go ..I'm leaning towards the latter now.

We are so easy to beat just sit back wait for us to cock up and take advantage.

Guzan -Kept us in it with great saves again
Luna-Holy fuck scares me everytime the ball goes near him.Curently out of his depth
Lowton - As a defender he is unconvincing alot of the time.Tidy enough on the ball and linked with Albrighton well at times
Baker - Wins alot of headers and makes eyecatching tackles..but like Luna fills me with dread when he is on the ball.His passing is woeful unless it's sideways
Clark -Did ok but dwells too long on the ball.Made some decent blocks
Albrighton - worst game since returning ..but was still one of the better ones.Played the one decent through ball all match that went to waste when Weimann skyed the ballback
KEA- Tidy enough on ball but creates zero and lightweight on the ball.Not player you want in a 2 man midfield
Delph - Tries hard but made some mistakes today by dwelling on ball.Went nuts in first half at a quick free kick played to him whilst every one piled into box leaving him no pass.Cares if nothing else
Weimann -No idea at all why he is played wide offered nothing at all.Had 2 good chances and  fluffed both the second when he hit a tame volley inside the box was woeful
Kozak - Ineffective ,won little in the air and when he did get a break fluffed his cross into the box.
Gabby - Dangerous due to pace at times but dear lord  he has no football brain fails to see better placed players time and time again.

Bowery - Made the keeper make a save ,,,best I can say
Tonev - Not on long enough