Aston Villa v Crystal Palace Post-Match Thread

[silhillvilla]

Culverhouse is a disgrace if this is true and should be marched out of the club.

[Dave Clark Five]

I do believe that come full time vs Swansea its a case of feck off lambert the villa is ours chant round he ground.

You won't find me joining in with such bully boy tactics. That sort of chant is appropriate to people who have slagged the fans off. I am not aware of Lambert doing that.

[olaftab]

didn't BFR get the push for loosing 4 in a row or was it more? Too sick of it all at the moment to check

Not really. It was the total results from after the League cup win the previous season and end of October (I think) the following season. Something like 10 wins in 40+ games.

[silhillvilla]

I do believe that come full time vs Swansea its a case of feck off lambert the villa is ours chant round he ground.

You won't find me joining in with such bully boy tactics. That sort of chant is appropriate to people who have slagged the fans off. I am not aware of Lambert doing that.

Spot on but lambert needs to deal with culverhouse. He can't let him get away with what he did this evening.

[rob_bridge]

didn't BFR get the push for loosing 4 in a row or was it more? Too sick of it all at the moment to check

Not really. It was the total results from after the League cup win the previous season and end of October (I think) the following season. Something like 10 wins in 40+ games.

41 points from 42 previous league games.  We were poor other than the fantastic League Cup win and great Inter night when Bergkamp and Co were downed.

[Tony Erdington]

Word for the crowd today, 37.5k against a no mark team like Palace was a really good attendance (I accept season ticket holders who didn't turn up were still counted and there were cheap ticket deals but still). Judging from the tv pictures Palace surprisingly didn't fill much of the bottom tier so it would've been close to 39k if they'd all turned up.

Really given the garbage we watch every other week at Villa Park, it's a tribute to loyalty we get much over 30k. We really deserve to watch a better football team imo.

I couldn't have said it better myself, I would just like to add though, if that drose on the pitch carries on the numbers will dwindle.

[silhillvilla]

Given the dire football, the support home and away has been superb all season. Again today, magnificent.

[rob_bridge]

Given the dire football, the support home and away has been superb all season. Again today, magnificent.

~Totally agree - average over 35k and this is the 5th season of average / poor home form.

[ozzjim]

It is incredible really. Fair play to those going, I have not been regular for 2-3 seasons now, and miss match days but watching online I do think well that money was better spent on the house than the football.

[kippaxvilla2]

Quite apart from my belief that the root cause is the lack of comparable investment (with other teams) I do think it's worth looking at the case for the managers defence.

1. When do players start taking some responsibility for performances?  Look at Weimann and Lowton as examples.  What is it about much improved contracts for these two amongst others that have turned them so poor overnight?

2. The loss of Benteke and Vlaar are hard to overestimate.  If you accept the fact that Benteke has been playing whilst unfit (something I do blame Lambert for) then it isn't a surprise he isn't the same player.  After all he was looking very good up to the injury.

3. Gabby although loved by many continues to flatter to deceive season in, season out.  I think he goes unnoticed as at some point in the season he chips in with a customary clutch of five goals and its considered job done for another season.

4.  Finally the biggest disappointment for me has been the complete disappearance of the 'feelgood' factor of the 2nd half of last season.  I think everyone including me expected those players to bounce into this season and compete above halfway at least .  That it hasn't materialised only adds to the current angst of supporters.

I'm not sure whether Lambert is the right man for the job and his constant drivel about us being fantastic is wearing thin and I think his tactics are bordering on throwing down cones at times but it does bug me that professional players often go under the radar when it comes to collective blame.

[walsall villain]

Given the dire football, the support home and away has been superb all season. Again today, magnificent.

I know we have no 'divine right to success' and all that but, yes, surely we deserve better than this.
Averaging a tad under 37k, more than Everton which as you say is excellent.
Today for the 4th season running I thought we are in big trouble. Under Houllier it was the Sunderland home game that started my annual panic and it was as depressing as today was.
I fully agree with the sentiment that sacking Lambert will do no good if the club is fixed on the current investment levels. That squad with no Benteke or Vlaar won't keep us up in my opinion.

[cdward]

37.5k paying customers, 13th in the PL. If we were top 4 we would only fit another 5k in. Randy is laughing all the way to the bank.  Nothing will change here.

[BC54 VFC]

A picture of Dave Clark Five appears in today's programme.

I bet your household is Glad All Over tonight, Jon.

[Tony Erdington]

its a recurring theme since lerner has been at the villa, appoints managers on the cheap (in comparison) and imo gives them unrealistic directives, ie get the wage bill down and sign bargain basement players. of all the players lambert has signed who has he signed from another premiership club?

we are buying at best championship players , so where do you think we'll be in no more than 2 seasons.

Then lerner how much of your dough do you think you'll get back.

At least get a football man back in as director of football. Sir Graham Taylor, and save money by sacking culverfuck

[BC54 VFC]

New song to the tune of 'Nigel Spink, he rolls the ball to Platty':-

Nathan Baker, he passes the ball to Clarky,
Clarky turns around and passes the ball to Lowton.
Lowton takes two steps forward and passes to El Ahmadi.
El Ahmadi turns to face his goal….. and passes the ball back to Baker.   

Repeat until fall asleep.

Somehow, I don't think we'll be singing this version in 25 years time.