Aston Villa v Crystal Palace Post-Match Thread

[VinnieChase84]

What was this Weimann altercation with a fan after the match? Read it in the telegraphs post match report?

[Legion]

Spot on, PWS. I manage a few school football teams. I could do better. C- for Mr Lambert and that's being generous.

[kippaxvilla2]

I know it's a cliche but some cliches are true, but if you pay peanuts you get monkeys. It's Lerner's pitiful budget that is dragging us down. This is why the likes of Martinez and OGS turned us down. They took one look at their budget and said "no thanks". Until this changes we'll always be a perennial relegation battler or even a Championship club.

This is true.

Championship wages = championship players.

Championship players = Championship eventually.

It isn't a bold experiment, this is ridiculously optimistic cheapness. They can tell themselves it is about young and hungry all they like but this is a truly pathetic squad.

It is repeat to fade.  So obvious.  Lambert may not be the answer but if you strip your squad of experienced premier league players and replace them with our squad you are by the law of averages bound to fail more often than not.

I got challenged a couple of weeks ago about whether the owner should continually invest.  But in this business you have to keep investing to stay ahead. Otherwise I simply cannot see the point of continuing.  He sure as hell won't have a chance of recouping his 300m or whatever outlay it is with the current strategy especially when in the Championship.

Typical Villa though will change the manager more than likely and not address the root cause.

[rougegorge]

Lambert assured us this Christmas would not be as bad as last year. Well it is. I couldn't see what plan he had then and still  can't. I am expecting nothing from Swansea  and Sunderland. A 'shock' exit in the cup would not  surprise me but a 'shock' managerial exit would.

[Hampshire Villa]

There seems to be something deeper wrong with our team! I was at the game. Just got home. We seem to be totally lacking in any confidence and additionally inept at making short sensible passes to break teams open. We seem to be completely clueless.
 All the players who saved our bacon last year have all gone off the boil at the same time. They all seem to have the first touch of an elephant. There must really be some kind of coaching issue here. At the start of the Season I thought we looked like we had made some improvement. sadly we look no better than when we were playing under TSM. The lack of any kind of plan B is worrying. It would appear that when we want to bring on a match winner  we bring on a 450k player from Chesterfield
We still have no sting or strength in midfield and look overall sloppy. There were a few moment s of classy play today but we are unable to sustain pressure on teams.

This is a disappointing time, At the moment we are lucky that there are even worse teams than us!

This should have been 3 points, we should not be worrying about teams like Palace. I think that Lambert could be in trouble if we lose again on Saturday!
Frankly I will not be renewing my ST next year. My job makes it difficult to attend mid week games and TV seem to insist on making more and more games midweek and Sunday at 4 pm etc. So it really a special effort to get to games and when I am rewarded with rubbish like that, it is hard to justify. I doubt Villa will care if I don't renew! 
The average player can just go , join another club, as do the managers, we are stuck with them for life!
 

[VinnieChase84]

But if we lose to Swansea and Sunderland that's 7 on the bounce. Has any manager ever lost 7 in a row and not lost his job!?

[Legion]

If.

[paulcomben]

What was this Weimann altercation with a fan after the match? Read it in the telegraphs post match report?

Oh that wasn't a fan. It was a Wolves scout waving a contract. Andi simply emphasised that he would be out of his depth anywhere higher than Kidderminster.

[eastie]

But if we lose to Swansea and Sunderland that's 7 on the bounce. Has any manager ever lost 7 in a row and not lost his job!?

With arsenal Liverpool and everton to come next

[Des Little]

What was this Weimann altercation with a fan after the match? Read it in the telegraphs post match report?

Maybe the fan pointed out o Weimann that seeing as we've doubled his wages he had better start putting some effort in. We live in hope anyway...

[VinnieChase84]

If.
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I know it's if but it's on comment to the poster expecting nothing from those two games.

[Ron Manager]

Ive just got back. Luckily not from the match but from the Lake District!  No change today I see. The current performances equal anything in 86/87 or 66/68. We are magnificently dire in the extreme. Now we all know Doug would have got rid of the current manager by now and equally we know there is not a 'cats in hell chance' that Randy has any intention of doing anything whatsoever.

Forget the spectre of relegation for a minute. We are playing an appalling brand of football, its depressing to watch. Supporters pay a great deal of money to attend games home and away and they should expect a certain level of entertainment . Mr Lambert, a dour stubborn individual, does not appear to have ability or intellect  to provide this. He has fallen far short of what we require at Aston Villa.

I for one would hope that Eastie would stop posting Lambert's post match excuses . I for one have had enough of him (Lambert that is!) and
am not interested one iota in anything he says anymore.

I would like to think he's a dead man walking.....but I suspect he is not.

[paulcomben]

There seems to be something deeper wrong with our team! I was at the game. Just got home. We seem to be totally lacking in any confidence and additionally inept at making short sensible passes to break teams open. We seem to be completely clueless.
 All the players who saved our bacon last year have all gone off the boil at the same time. They all seem to have the first touch of an elephant. There must really be some kind of coaching issue here. At the start of the Season I thought we looked like we had made some improvement. sadly we look no better than when we were playing under TSM. The lack of any kind of plan B is worrying. It would appear that when we want to bring on a match winner  we bring on a 450k player from Chesterfield
We still have no sting or strength in midfield and look overall sloppy. There were a few moment s of classy play today but we are unable to sustain pressure on teams.

This is a disappointing time, At the moment we are lucky that there are even worse teams than us!

This should have been 3 points, we should not be worrying about teams like Palace. I think that Lambert could be in trouble if we lose again on Saturday!
Frankly I will not be renewing my ST next year. My job makes it difficult to attend mid week games and TV seem to insist on making more and more games midweek and Sunday at 4 pm etc. So it really a special effort to get to games and when I am rewarded with rubbish like that, it is hard to justify. I doubt Villa will care if I don't renew! 
The average player can just go , join another club, as do the managers, we are stuck with them for life!
 

Firstly, you are correct and, secondly, far from feeling guilty about your ST, your stoicism for the last 4 seasons should earn you a New Year Honour.

[Legion]

If.
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I know it's if but it's on comment to the poster expecting nothing from those two games.

If we get nothing from Swansea or Sunderland I'll be less supportive of Lambert.

[eric woolban woolban]

We need the orange dot!