Paul Lambert on Randy Lerner .

[ChicagoLion]

Football is the only profession where decisions are made by people that are unqualified to make appointments of people that are unable to carry out the role.

The talent pool of football managers is extremely shallow, sack Lambert tomorrow and he will have another job within a month because there are so few "qualified" candidates. This does not mean he is a good or even competent manager, there are just so few options.

[paul_e]

Football is the only profession where decisions are made by people that are unqualified to make appointments of people that are unable to carry out the role.

The talent pool of football managers is extremely shallow, sack Lambert tomorrow and he will have another job within a month because there are so few "qualified" candidates. This does not mean he is a good or even competent manager, there are just so few options.

To a large extent that is because of the amount of pressure placed upon anyone taking the job.  There are very few jobs that you can compare it to in terms of the external influences and pressure from stakeholders.

[ChicagoLion]

Football is the only profession where decisions are made by people that are unqualified to make appointments of people that are unable to carry out the role.

The talent pool of football managers is extremely shallow, sack Lambert tomorrow and he will have another job within a month because there are so few "qualified" candidates. This does not mean he is a good or even competent manager, there are just so few options.

To a large extent that is because of the amount of pressure placed upon anyone taking the job.  There are very few jobs that you can compare it to in terms of the external influences and pressure from stakeholders.

Dunno, when you look a the renumeration they get there are very few people out there that would turn it down. They only recruit ex footballers. There is no other profesion that would hire the likes of Sam Allardyce Peter Reid to handle multi millions of assets on the basis that they could kick a football.

[eastie]

Football is the only profession where decisions are made by people that are unqualified to make appointments of people that are unable to carry out the role.

The talent pool of football managers is extremely shallow, sack Lambert tomorrow and he will have another job within a month because there are so few "qualified" candidates. This does not mean he is a good or even competent manager, there are just so few options.

To a large extent that is because of the amount of pressure placed upon anyone taking the job.  There are very few jobs that you can compare it to in terms of the external influences and pressure from stakeholders.

Dunno, when you look a the renumeration they get there are very few people out there that would turn it down. They only recruit ex footballers. There is no other profesion that would hire the likes of Sam Allardyce Peter Reid to handle multi millions of assets on the basis that they could kick a football.

Prime example avb- £12m plus for getting sacked twice and no real playing history as such either .

[paul_e]

surely the latter point it's a complete contradiction of what CL was saying there Eastie.  The 1 positive that Jose Mourinho brings to the sport is the proof that you don't have to have played at any meaningful standard to be a successful manager in 3 of the 4 toughest leagues in the world.

[eastie]

surely the latter point it's a complete contradiction of what CL was saying there Eastie.  The 1 positive that Jose Mourinho brings to the sport is the proof that you don't have to have played at any meaningful standard to be a successful manager in 3 of the 4 toughest leagues in the world.

Yes , Wenger is another good example and possibly Brendan Rogers - the money involved in managing and remuneration for being sacked makes it all worthwhile at that level I guess.

[OCD]

Occasionally they have a plan of who they'll get it but it doesn't quite transpire. We openly courted Martinez before McLeish, and OGS before getting Lambert.

The difference is that in both those cases the season was over and there was time to look at it properly. The original point about getting rid of a manager with no idea about who would be brought in is really about when it happens during the season. Spurs don't seem to have anyone in mind, neither do Albion and in their case the decision could bring them into a relegation dogfight. Another example would be Wolves a couple of years ago. They would have probably still gone down had they kept McCarthy but they got rid of him and completely collapsed - to the point of back-to-back relegations. The lack of vision from the top at these clubs is really mind boggling. 

[dave.woodhall]

Occasionally they have a plan of who they'll get it but it doesn't quite transpire. We openly courted Martinez before McLeish, and OGS before getting Lambert.

The difference is that in both those cases the season was over and there was time to look at it properly. The original point about getting rid of a manager with no idea about who would be brought in is really about when it happens during the season. Spurs don't seem to have anyone in mind, neither do Albion and in their case the decision could bring them into a relegation dogfight. Another example would be Wolves a couple of years ago. They would have probably still gone down had they kept McCarthy but they got rid of him and completely collapsed - to the point of back-to-back relegations. The lack of vision from the top at these clubs is really mind boggling. 

When Clarke got sacked the local media said that St Jeremy always has the new man in  mind when he gets rid of the old. Doesn't look like it.

[ROBBO]

From what i've read of his time at the Browns i don't think Lerner has a problem sacking managers and coaches. We are entering an interesting period where nearly all the non playing big wage earners will be gone, i'm hoping that this will mean that Lambert will be able to pay a decent wad to players he thinks have the quality the club need and Randy will back him, i have a feeling that Lambert delves a little further into the quality of the individual as much as his footballing ability.
If Lambert manages to get one or two quality players in we could see some of the newer players improve dramatically.

[paul_e]

I still think the baggies main target is malkie mckay but they're dodging paying compensation.

[ciggiesnbeer]

"It's not a challenge I will run away from. This job is years - not just one or two. "

Thank god for that. I was fearing Lambert may have been wobbling after the silly booing at home recently. Glad to hear he is in for the long term.

We will come good and he & Randy are the right men to take the club forward.

[Toronto Villa]

From what i've read of his time at the Browns i don't think Lerner has a problem sacking managers and coaches. We are entering an interesting period where nearly all the non playing big wage earners will be gone, i'm hoping that this will mean that Lambert will be able to pay a decent wad to players he thinks have the quality the club need and Randy will back him, i have a feeling that Lambert delves a little further into the quality of the individual as much as his footballing ability.
If Lambert manages to get one or two quality players in we could see some of the newer players improve dramatically.

During his time at the Browns he played significant wages for many players. The Browns, who weren't (aren't) very good still had numerous high draft picks that were paid very well. I don't think paying wages will be a problem for those you deserve it once we have cleared out the last of the dead wood so to speak. We'll pay those have earnt it and to those who are worth it. However the days of giving big money to those who will sit on the bench as seen during the MON years are over.

[danlanza]

"It's not a challenge I will run away from. This job is years - not just one or two. "

Thank god for that. I was fearing Lambert may have been wobbling after the silly booing at home recently. Glad to hear he is in for the long term.

We will come good and he & Randy are the right men to take the club forward.

Sensible comment that one.

[bertlambshank]

I still think the baggies main target is malkie mckay but they're dodging paying compensation.

Staying at Cardiff for now,hope they don't have a plan B.

[cdward]

surely the latter point it's a complete contradiction of what CL was saying there Eastie.  The 1 positive that Jose Mourinho brings to the sport is the proof that you don't have to have played at any meaningful standard to be a successful manager in 3 of the 4 toughest leagues in the world.

And playing at the highest level does not guarantee success as a manager.  By my reckoning of the current premier league managers, only Laudrup could be regarded as being more successful than Lambert as a player. Mark Hughes has not won the European Cup/Champions league.