Stoke City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[eastie]

Suggestions that we should stick with Lambert until the end of January don't make sense. By that point a new manager - if you can get one - is unable to use any contacts to beg/steal/borrow loan signings or buy any body he can with the £500k available.  If Lambert goes it has to be no later than after we lose at Sunderland on New Years Day.  New Year New Start No Lambert

Agreed.

[Mortimer's Bear]

Di cani....

Di matteo, avb, dean smith, George graham,

No, no, no and no thankyou!

[Legion]

All goals

[saunders_heroes]

There must be a time when Lerner realises he has to invest again. He needs to invest in January just to keep us clear of the drop, but come the summer he has to start acting like the chairman he was in his early days and at least give the manager the tools to actually compete in the Premier League. If he doesn't then it's time to sell up.

[Jon Crofts]

Where is Lord Lucan these days?  Has he been over this season at all?

[pauliewalnuts]

There must be a time when Lerner realises he has to invest again. He needs to invest in January just to keep us clear of the drop, but come the summer he has to start acting like the chairman he was in his early days and at least give the manager the tools to actually compete in the Premier League. If he doesn't then it's time to sell up.

He has invested, though, that's the thing. How much has Lambert spent? 40 plus million?

But they're all from the (relatively) low wage bracket. If that's to fit in with constraints set by the club, then it is very worrying.

We're going to have to buy better players than we have. Not millions of them, just one or two, then maybe they'll help bring back some of the quality the cheaper players showed in patches last season.

If he's trying to prove something with the cheap approach, then it's not working, and it never will.

[Dave Clark Five]

Allardyce.

[pauliewalnuts]

Suggestions that we should stick with Lambert until the end of January don't make sense. By that point a new manager - if you can get one - is unable to use any contacts to beg/steal/borrow loan signings or buy any body he can with the £500k available.  If Lambert goes it has to be no later than after we lose at Sunderland on New Years Day.  New Year New Start No Lambert

Agreed.

Anyone who thinks Lambert is going to be getting sacked is kidding themselves.

[pauliewalnuts]

Allardyce.

Sack Lambert for the shit football and bad results, and replace him with a manager playing even shitter football and currently getting even shitter results.

That'll work.

[Dave Clark Five]

Suggestions that we should stick with Lambert until the end of January don't make sense. By that point a new manager - if you can get one - is unable to use any contacts to beg/steal/borrow loan signings or buy any body he can with the £500k available.  If Lambert goes it has to be no later than after we lose at Sunderland on New Years Day.  New Year New Start No Lambert

Agreed.

Anyone who thinks Lambert is going to be getting sacked is kidding themselves.

Or that Lerner will throw the towel in.

[NeilH]

He really isn't going anywhere is he and the club is now rudderless off the field and deficient on the field.

As previously mentioned, this whole thing is starting to make me dislike football.

[barrysleftfoot]

 Thing is RL bought Villa for £60m, whats it worth now..£200m?  To protect your investment, you need to at least maintain its status.Lack of decent investment will severely threaten that.We have been skirting with relegation now or 4/5 years, its too long.

[saunders_heroes]

There must be a time when Lerner realises he has to invest again. He needs to invest in January just to keep us clear of the drop, but come the summer he has to start acting like the chairman he was in his early days and at least give the manager the tools to actually compete in the Premier League. If he doesn't then it's time to sell up.

He has invested, though, that's the thing. How much has Lambert spent? 40 plus million?

But they're all from the (relatively) low wage bracket. If that's to fit in with constraints set by the club, then it is very worrying.

We're going to have to buy better players than we have. Not millions of them, just one or two, then maybe they'll help bring back some of the quality the cheaper players showed in patches last season.

If he's trying to prove something with the cheap approach, then it's not working, and it never will.

Agreed, it's the wages that are the real problem, I get that. There are always bargains to get in the transfer market but you have to pay the going rate in wages. Just think of the difference Gareth Barry would have made in our team yet we wouldn't touch him because of his wages. There has to be a serious re-think re wages or we may well be in serious trouble come May, and if we ever want to compete in the top 6 again we have to show the money. Otherwise what's the point? The fans aren't going to take this dross forever.

[Jon Crofts]

Suggestions that we should stick with Lambert until the end of January don't make sense. By that point a new manager - if you can get one - is unable to use any contacts to beg/steal/borrow loan signings or buy any body he can with the £500k available.  If Lambert goes it has to be no later than after we lose at Sunderland on New Years Day.  New Year New Start No Lambert

Agreed.

Anyone who thinks Lambert is going to be getting sacked is kidding themselves.

Or that Lerner will throw the towel in.

Let me know when he does, it's kind of hard to tell right now.

[ChicagoLion]

Suggestions that we should stick with Lambert until the end of January don't make sense. By that point a new manager - if you can get one - is unable to use any contacts to beg/steal/borrow loan signings or buy any body he can with the £500k available.  If Lambert goes it has to be no later than after we lose at Sunderland on New Years Day.  New Year New Start No Lambert

Agreed.

Anyone who thinks Lambert is going to be getting sacked is kidding themselves.

Or that Lerner will throw the towel in.

Or that any decent Manager will come to a job with his hands tied behind his back, we are fcukd